Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I know that DNA has to come from somewhere. but is the pending news really going to amount to the "discovery" of the species? Let's face it - You can say whatever you want about any evidence, yet without a sample specimen you have to be able to eventually produce the creature in a manner that allows your hypothesis and speculation to be confirmed. I believe it to be in error to make any determination on restricting human activities or making legislative changes based on DNA samples without photographic evidence, video evidence, a live specimen, a slab monkey or a location/habitation that allows for observation and study. Let's be honest here - Any speculative "knowledge" about Bigfoot without observation and study of the creature would be conjecture at best. My hope is that the evidence is good enough to spur further investigative research to obtain real, tangible proof in the form of a compete specimen, or at least conclusive video evidence. See, I will ask (as I keep asking, but no one will answer) where exactly you think "undocumented primate" DNA would come from aside from an undocumented primate? A good, clean DNA sequence is 100% absolute proof of the animal whose sample it came from. You simply cannot have the former w/o the later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Show me some links, or what you looked up? Yes please my fu skills are sluggish today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Last October I went to a Bigfoot Conference in Pa. Dr. Meldrum was there and he spoke about his trip to Russia. I remember that he was disgruntled because he was asked by Igor to come over and examine a cave where a Yeti supposedly nested. When he got there it was obvious to him that the evidence had all been planted and it was his opinion that the Russians were pushing the "yeti" factor to boost tourism. I can't help but think tha this report is appearing as a "white paper" in a Russian magazine is more of the same. I had heard that the paper was in peer review for well over a year now. Was it rejected and relegated to being published in a foreign non peer reviewed magazine? I think everyone is getting their hopes up prematurely because this does not sound like the results we all would have wanted to hear. It's just "news" and non verified "news" at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I just want a bonafide journal or magazine (online) to pick it up. Not the small news offerings, I'm waiting for a big publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Tontar Thank you for responding to my post . This is what I am asking, '' IF '' there is a video of a BF leaving a DNA sample would a type specieman still be required to proof the spieces ? I am asking because some think that this paper will not do much for the public because they think it would not measure up to a body. Only people not thinking clearly would come to that conclusion. DNA comes from body sample (blood, hair, etc) Body sample (blood, hair, etc) comes from Critter DNA = Critter. It's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 @CTFoot The DNA Diagnostics press release is genuine, that's for sure. Only people not thinking clearly would come to that conclusion. DNA comes from body sample (blood, hair, etc) Body sample (blood, hair, etc) comes from Critter DNA = Critter. It's that simple. That's true, and that's what I've heard from a lot of geneticists and anthropologists. Even though having DNA doesn't prove what the species is, it does prove that we have a species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Ketchum just released the bomb on her Facebook page. ... *edit for space* Talk about a swing for the fences... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) : If these novel sequences aren't a part of the human (and ancestor) line, and not of the ape line, (but now seeing the wording, perhaps an ancestral line ape now extinct) what other possibilities? It still seems like H. erectus would be a candidate since it is still an unknown hominin genetically right? It also says to be peer-reviewed, so it's not a done deal I suppose? “Sasquatch nuclear DNA is incredibly novel and not at all what we had expected. While it has human nuclear DNA within its genome, there are also distinctly non-human, non-archaic hominin, and non-ape sequences. We describe it as a mosaic of human and novel non-human sequence. Further study is needed and is ongoing to better characterize and understand Sasquatch nuclear DNA.†Edited November 24, 2012 by apehuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thermalman Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 So...is it safe to come out of the closet yet,lol? A sad day ...JREF in shock, then denial, soon in mourning... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefoot Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) ^^^^ Yes... thus the "curveball" statement. Edited November 24, 2012 by indiefoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 All we have is her report, no details about who the other collaborators were, what methods were used, why the nuclear genome is novel. I'm hoping that my intuition is incorrect but this does not bode well to announce your findings in this way if you want the scientific community to give your research serious consideration IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Another news article, still not big though. Sigh... http://www.virtual-strategy.com/2012/11/24/bigfoot-dna-sequenced-upcoming-genetics-study Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thermalman Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Igor pushed the timetable up. Do you think he heard about Spike's $10M bounty and wanted to cash in first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Some one get the smelling salts! I think they will be ok... ; ) Might ought to get a defibrilator while you're at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Another news article, still not big though. Sigh... http://www.virtual-s...-genetics-study Still early though... @Apehuman- yes that is so intriguing...wonder what Sykes will some up with on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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