Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Anyone who takes negative ratings by the BBB seriously is falling for the scam.; I recall asking a former Boss of a company that I helped run "Are we listed with the BBB?" His answer "No. It's a scam. They want you to pay for a "good recommendation" I trust Bernie, he's been doing business for 50 years, with primarily Law Enforcement, local, state, and federal. So if Melba Ketchum has any negative marks with the BBB, it's just because she didn't pay them a fee. That's simply not true. Take BBB for what it's worth. it's just simply an *Indicator*, but there WAS a basis for the rating. Several customers complained of not getting results in a timely manner or NOT AT ALL. Here's a link to BBB report>> http://www.bbb.org/e...son-tx-24003140 Factors that lowered DNA Diagnostics, Inc.'s rating include: 25 complaints filed against business Failure to respond to 4 complaints filed against business. 13 complaints filed against business that were not resolved. 10 serious complaints filed against business. BBB does not have sufficient information to determine how long this business has been operating. BBB does not have sufficient background information on this business. Customer Complaints Summary Complaint Type Total Closed Complaints Delivery Issues 21 Problems with Product / Service 4 Advertising / Sales Issues 0 Billing / Collection Issues 0 Guarantee / Warranty Issues 0 Total Closed Complaints 25 Edited December 19, 2012 by Art1972 to remove adult and inflammatory personal information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GoLd Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Hello everyone, Longtime lurker, but this is my first time posting anything. As an Incorporated business owner, I think I may be able to clarify what incorporated business taxes are, and what "not in good standing" means. Now, to be clear, my business is in Illinois and not Texas, so there may be differences, but here is what a state corporate tax is in Illinois. The state corp. tax is basically a business license tax that you pay to the state, In Illinois you need to file and pay annually, and it is completely separate from state and federal taxes owed on a profitable business. In Illinois if you do not pay your state corp. tax then your business will be termed "not in good standing", this serves as more of a negative credit issue, than the state will close you down and seize your assets issue. Now I have never personally had to pay this, so I am paraphrasing from what my accountant, who is the one who takes care of these things, has told me. Before I incorporated, I was a sole proprietor and did not have to pay this fee, this fee is only for legal purposes to the state, and what it means is that the corporation is still a functioning legal entity, and is therefore entitled to all the legal rights associated with being a corp. and is recognized by the state as such. Now, where "not in good standing" can hurt your business would be; Bank Loans (not a legal entity, as well as an unpaid debt, they will most likely ask you to clear it from your credit report before approving your loan), customer audits (not a legal entity, therefore a red flag) or in the event you are sued, they can claim that you are not a true and legal corp. and may try to seize personal assets, which is what being a corp. protects you from. So to me, both this issue as well as the BBB nonsense, are irrelevant to the argument, especially the BBB stuff, they are for lack of a better word, extortionists. In reference to ronn1 posting DNA Diagnostics BBB report, I would ask 25 complaints, over how many years Vs how many total transactions. If it's 25 complaints on 100 transactions, thats pretty bad, if the transactions are in the thousands or even 10's of thousands then who cares, no company has ever pleased all of the people all of the time. edited for missing words: oops! Edited December 19, 2012 by GoLd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Particle Noun Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Gold, thank you for that informed post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spurfoot Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Two of the links provided indicate "Not in standing", in other words, the corporation had been dissolved as best as I can parse it. That is perfectly legal and expected of any corporation that ceases operations. One link says "Not in good standing". That might indicate non-payment of corporation tax at the time of the certificate. That doesn't mean much unless it is allowed to drag out. Even then, the tax might have been paid since. It takes two weeks for the Texas database to update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Yes, many thanks for the much needed clarification GoLd. i think that story has been flogged enough already folks. Edited December 19, 2012 by kezra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Folks... the discussion is once again drifting into personal territory about Dr Ketchum. For those of you who are new, she is a member here, and as such is afforded the same protections and expected respect that all of us have under the forums rules and guidelines. I am getting really sick of having to quote the forums rules and guidelines in these threads. In this case there's a very simple one that applies.... ][/b]3. Remember at all times that this forum is here to discuss the subject of Bigfoot, not to discuss other members. If you don't have something nice to say about someone, you might want to consider not saying anything. Lets move on please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GoLd Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Particle Noun and Kezra, You are both welcome, and since I'm here I would like to thank everyone, proponents and skeptics a like, for years of provocative and truly interesting reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 These bbb reports are as important as that "do not remove " tag on your mattress. she was in business 20 + years, no mention of that in the BBB Report. Riddle me this, if she was in business for 20+ years, how do you think think that would be possible if she was so terrible at it ? and if you do any kind of work for the FBI, they check every nook and cranny of not only your business but personal life, if they believe she knows what she is doing, that's good enough for me, since they have been doing forensics since J. Edgar hoover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) You can go to Dr. Ketchum's Facebook page and read back through history to your heart's content. My guess is that you will not find anything related to the rumors other than statements from Dr. Ketchum noting that she hasn't participated in forum or blog discussions and that folks have tried to impersonate her in some venues and denials of rumors. If you find anything there that is troubling maybe you could post it here, straight from the "horses mouth" as it were. Let us know if you find anything. Most of those statements were on her public facebook page (that she shut down), not her personal Facebook page. Blurry stick structures, interacting with a family of 5 bigfoots, ect. Those wild claims came from her mouth. I know some members here have those statements saved on their computer, maybe they can repost them.Here's some http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/01/dr-melba-ketchum-explains-her-bigfoot.html http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/04/dr-melba-ketchum-shares-photo-of-sticks.html Edited December 19, 2012 by squatting squatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Congratulations to Melba for doggedly attempting to prove the Science that Bigfoot exists. She has done this at a horrible price.. She has worked tirelessly for approx. 5 years on something she did not believe existed in the beginning. She is in a race to be the first... that is not a knock but a compliment.... That's the way private enterprises do it in America, with RISKS.. hoping and believing in the " "reward for success" that private enterprise might receive ..... ( Hey Academia .... Its their form of TENURE ) Blunt but true.... she has risked something beside government money. What say you academic types... DNA has advanced so fast in the years since 2007 that to be the first, you have to work tirelessly to accomplish what has become a dream and near obsession with her. She has devoted 5 years of her life and business and health and evidently life savings in the pursuit.... She has met deadlines and new Science head on... Sometimes having to leave lesser projects wanting for lack of time... She pays for her help.... not the government. Not many of the skeptics and Lame stream academic scientific types would EVER attempt what she has attempted to do with mostly her personal funds. ( I know that she has had to ask for additional funding ) She is not risking tenure but her life savings and reputation in this pursuit... and Academia can't stand it ..... She has endured countless posts attacking her in every possible way, yet she has endured.... Academic types ask for government funding... This is a fact... They don't have to pay back that funding... or lose their salary.... Most academic types would have folded their tent and not risked TENURE ( or life savings ) to complete a gold.... Well IMHO it don't take a "rocket scientist" to figure out what is going on... then again maybe some can't understand. 25 complaints in 20 years, try to get that response from any business, that seems to be a great response. Well, maybe it is easier to attack her in Print than to ketch up to her... that ( attacks ) is a small risk for academia... IMHO Full "Balls " ahead MELBA... they can't catch you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted December 20, 2012 BFF Patron Share Posted December 20, 2012 "Full-balls" is better than "fur-balls"? Hahahahaha..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 That's simply not true. Take BBB for what it's worth. it's just simply an *Indicator*, but there WAS a basis for the rating. Several customers complained of not getting results in a timely manner or NOT AT ALL. Here's a link to BBB report>> http://www.bbb.org/e...son-tx-24003140 Factors that lowered DNA Diagnostics, Inc.'s rating include: 25 complaints filed against business Failure to respond to 4 complaints filed against business. 13 complaints filed against business that were not resolved. 10 serious complaints filed against business. BBB does not have sufficient information to determine how long this business has been operating. BBB does not have sufficient background information on this business. Customer Complaints Summary Complaint Type Total Closed Complaints Delivery Issues 21 Problems with Product / Service 4 Advertising / Sales Issues 0 Billing / Collection Issues 0 Guarantee / Warranty Issues 0 Total Closed Complaints 25 Which still has ZERO to do with the quality of the lab work, given the specifics of the 4 that are categorized as Product problems. Here is the page with the actual complaints where ANYone can read what was actually said: http://www.bbb.org/east-texas/business-reviews/laboratories-medical/dna-diagnostics-in-timpson-tx-24003140/complaints Show me a SINGLE report there that said her DNA analysis was wrong, or her lab procedures were sloppy, etc. You can't, because there are no such reports. In reference to ronn1 posting DNA Diagnostics BBB report, I would ask 25 complaints, over how many years Vs how many total transactions. If it's 25 complaints on 100 transactions, thats pretty bad, if the transactions are in the thousands or even 10's of thousands then who cares, no company has ever pleased all of the people all of the time. Been saying that for months myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Does the HD video need to be peer reviewed also? I'd rather see an untouched video then the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Does the HD video need to be peer reviewed also? I'd rather see an untouched video then the paper. Yes, yes, yessssssh.. That would speak volumes. But IMHO.... After the paper is released ....... There will be many, many more ..... That will come out of the woodwork .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Thanks Art1972, It is easy to forget that real people are involved and obviously deserve respect. I would not be here without stubbling onto this research some time ago. It is easy to throw stones from behind a computer screen and It is crazy how someones perspective can change so quickly over this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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