Bigfoot 3 Season Nests, Spring, Summer, Fall.

[BobbyO]

Thanks. Any Bear in the area that's known of ? Healthy population I mean ?

[FelixTheCat]

2 hours ago, BobbyO said:

Thanks. Any Bear in the area that's known of ? Healthy population I mean ?

Oh yeah, we got black bear, literally in my neighbors back yard one was sighted, we are 2 to 3 miles south of the area.  We also got coyote, moose and mountain lion.  I personally saw the mountain lion tracks.  Are you thinking bear hunters?

[BobbyO]

No no, i'm thinking food supply. Just wondering if there was Bears there then the food supply would/could be there. 

[SackScratch]

1 hour ago, BobbyO said:

No no, i'm thinking food supply. Just wondering if there was Bears there then the food supply would/could be there. 

 

the entire continent of North America was covered in even Grizzly Bears until Europeans Exterminated them, not to mention a hundred other creatures!

[WSA]

Black bears do make nests, as has been documented. As far as I know though, that is only in the southern latitudes of NA. 

[FelixTheCat]

3 hours ago, WSA said:

Black bears do make nests, as has been documented. As far as I know though, that is only in the southern latitudes of NA. 

I learn something new every day.  I didn't know that black bear made nests.  But doing a quick internet search, I see that the nests are in the tops of the trees, and the beds are on the ground, but look nothing like what I have found.  Appreciate your comment.

4 hours ago, BobbyO said:

No no, i'm thinking food supply. Just wondering if there was Bears there then the food supply would/could be there. 

That's the biggest argument isn't it, the skeptics always say there is not enough food to support an animal the size of a Sasquatch, yet in MA we have at least 5000 black bear,  100,000 dear and 1000 moose.  Not to mentions all the raccoons, porcupine, possum, skunk and all the other little critters, as well as coyote and about a gazillion turkeys.

[FelixTheCat]

On 3/28/2020 at 8:17 PM, 7.62 said:

When you say nest. Do you think Sasquatch  are laying down in the open sleeping next to the trail there ?

 

There's no top cover to protect them from rain it's pretty much open?

Maybe it looks different in person than watching it on video .

 

 

 

I thought I answered this, but I don't see it in the thread.  Yeah, they are pretty much sleeping under the tree.  Think about it, what do the wild animals of the forest do?  They endure, they endure whatever mother nature throws at them.  That is why we can never be as great as them in the forests.  But the Eastern Hemlock actually provides a great deal of protection from precipitation.  And maybe if it gets too tough to handle, they'll recede into their winter hideaway.

[hiflier]

So, FelixTheCat, this has been educational to be sure. There is a dynamic that maybe you could go into a little regarding your own viewpoint on suspected Sasquatch nesting behavior. Off the bat, do you think that the supposed Sasquatch nesting sites found in the Olympic Peninsula, May of 2015, would be more in keeping with what the creatures might construct. Those nests were compared to the nesting behavior of Western Lowland Gorillas which primitively weave twigs into a structure almost on a daily basis.

 

One question would be have you noticed any nesting behavior more sophisticated that what you have found and shown on your videos?  Another question would be do you think that nesting behavior found in one region would be different than behavior in another region and why? A third is, if these nests areas that you find are so close to trails and, IMHO, not the least bit elaborate, then they are made quickly and not meant for long term use? That said, their location close to trails, even though not obvious, should afford an opportunity to collect hair samples or fecal material? And lastly, Have you thought of contacting any wildlife experts,  or biologists, from a nearby academic institution to perhaps give an opinion or take a soil sample from in or around the nests?

 

You say you've been dealing with this for years with different types of experience and encounters so I get the impression that you may just keep on for years without a solid piece of evidence for this creatures existence. Do you think it may be time to see if some solid evidence could be acquired by a specialist in the field of wildlife behavior familiar with the area, or a geneticist who might be curious about the structures and what/who may have made them.

 

I say all of this because you have been urging people to go out this Spring and find some nest sites of their own but ultimately how would this progress the subject any further what what you have already done? I mean, I give you kudos for finding these and investigating the possibilities so don't get me wrong. However, I also think it's time to go further and not stop short by finding a nest site, videoing it, and more or less just leave it t that. Do you think it's time to get some science involved in order to gain a definitive answer beyond you yourself being satisfied with who/what is making these structure? 

[hiflier]

Solving For Bigfoot shouldn't garnish a downvote. Especially when good questions are asked. Please explain.

Edited April 10, 2020 by hiflier

[BigTreeWalker]

3 hours ago, FelixTheCat said:

But doing a quick internet search, I see that the nests are in the tops of the trees, and the beds are on the ground,

Black bears in North America climb trees and probably sleep in trees if they can find a secure perch. But I'm not sure where you found information about bear nests in trees. Unless we are using a very lax definition of a nest. On the ground they simply rake debris together to lay on, or dig a slight hollow out of cool earth to lay in. 

[Twist]

@hiflier

I'm not the one that down voted you but I"m guessing its because you came off a bit critical.  He's out there hiking the woods and documenting what he finds.   My opinion on his nest find aside, he's out there presenting his opinion and his finds via video which is better than most.   You seem to come off as saying because he has been doing this for X years but not getting science involved is a bit preachy.    Especially considering most BF'ers always tote the "I"m not trying to prove it to anyone else" line.   He's out there doing his thing and presenting his findings.  He's not bringing science into it but he is not required to do so, your post could give the impression he owes something to science or the field.   

 

Just my thoughts, not saying it was your message.  

Edited April 10, 2020 by Twist

[hiflier]

My upvote there, bud These were also in my post:

 

6 hours ago, hiflier said:

So, FelixTheCat, this has been educational to be sure

 

6 hours ago, hiflier said:

I mean, I give you kudos for finding these and investigating the possibilities so don't get me wrong.

 

The rest of it were questions that I thought he MIGHT consider. No demands, no condescension, no judgments. Credit where credit was due followed by some suggestions as food for thought in the name of progress. FTC can choose to respond any way he wishes, or not. It would be interesting to hear his point of view because I'm convinced that F&W, and probably Game Wardens as well, should have also come across these types of things and maybe already have an opinion? Especially if these creatures have been in the area creating these nests for a while, seasonally or otherwise.

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by hiflier

[FelixTheCat]

7 hours ago, hiflier said:

So, FelixTheCat, this has been educational to be sure. There is a dynamic that maybe you could go into a little regarding your own viewpoint on suspected Sasquatch nesting behavior. Off the bat, do you think that the supposed Sasquatch nesting sites found in the Olympic Peninsula, May of 2015, would be more in keeping with what the creatures might construct. Those nests were compared to the nesting behavior of Western Lowland Gorillas which primitively weave twigs into a structure almost on a daily basis.

 

One question would be have you noticed any nesting behavior more sophisticated that what you have found and shown on your videos?  Another question would be do you think that nesting behavior found in one region would be different than behavior in another region and why? A third is, if these nests areas that you find are so close to trails and, IMHO, not the least bit elaborate, then they are made quickly and not meant for long term use? That said, their location close to trails, even though not obvious, should afford an opportunity to collect hair samples or fecal material? And lastly, Have you thought of contacting any wildlife experts,  or biologists, from a nearby academic institution to perhaps give an opinion or take a soil sample from in or around the nests?

 

You say you've been dealing with this for years with different types of experience and encounters so I get the impression that you may just keep on for years without a solid piece of evidence for this creatures existence. Do you think it may be time to see if some solid evidence could be acquired by a specialist in the field of wildlife behavior familiar with the area, or a geneticist who might be curious about the structures and what/who may have made them.

 

I say all of this because you have been urging people to go out this Spring and find some nest sites of their own but ultimately how would this progress the subject any further what what you have already done? I mean, I give you kudos for finding these and investigating the possibilities so don't get me wrong. However, I also think it's time to go further and not stop short by finding a nest site, videoing it, and more or less just leave it t that. Do you think it's time to get some science involved in order to gain a definitive answer beyond you yourself being satisfied with who/what is making these structure? 

Dear hiflier,

  Please realize that I am only on an obsessive quest for answers,
I'm no expert, but I'm just showing what I find.  Ever since
they whooped at me in April of 2012, there hasn't been a day gone
by that I didn't think about them.  So I am really glad you are asking
all these questions.

  I have only found one other type of nest, in which if you had a
hundred little saplings, sometimes you'll come across a patch of them
where they were all laid down in the same direction, as if something
heavy pushed 20 of them down and slept on them.  Other than that, you
have to remember rule number 1.  They want to leave no trace of their
existence, in my opinion, so simple nests that fade back into the forest
after a few years, are the ones that I imagine they would be making.

  Thanks for pointing out the Olympic Peninsula nests, because I hadn't
seen them, but I see it now on Cliff Barackman dot com.  I haven't followed
Cliff because of how I see them research on the show, Finding Bigfoot.
If you ever want to find bigfoot, don't do anything that they do on that show,
that's just my opinion.  I'm talking whooping, and hollering, and woodknocks,
and parading around at night with 20 people.

  But, it would appear that my bigfoot friends, and Cliff Barackman's friends,
and the lowland gorillas, all make their nests on the ground.  Different
geographic areas have different flora, which means different nests.  Much
in the same way indigenous people's homes are constructed by the most readily
available material, forests-wood, desert-adobe, plains-animal skins, etc.
I have subscribed and watched true boots on the ground researchers from all
over the country.  Mid-atlantic appears to have very few eastern hemlocks,
so I haven't figured where they would sleep, but a man Ken King and his wife
down in Arkansas, claims to have found some nests, and it looks like somebody
piled up a bunch of pine needles next to a tree.  I wish I could comment about
everyone's area, but I only know mine.  By the way, check out Ken King Arkansas
Bigfoot, great channel.

  The nests that I show are close to a trail, but as far as I know, I'm the only one
whoever walks on that trail.  So, in essence, the bigfoot think they are safe.
But imagine this, I am going to go out there this weekend, either Sat or Sun depending
on weather, but we recently got a big rain, I don't even know if I can make the mile
with my wife's Ford Edge.  My Dodge Dakota 4x4 went to the junkyard.  And even
if I can make it out there, my stomach is churning, because if the nest is there, I
doubt if I'll see them, but as I approach they will surely have run off into the
forest just far enough to not be seen but still be able to observe me.  
They will be close in that case no doubt.  And I have to weigh getting evidence
against not having them pack up and leave the area.  So I'm fighting fear, but less so
than in past years, because they are just like you and me.  If you get too close,
they'll let you know that you need to leave.  But yeah, I've regretted not lingering
over the nests last year and looking real close for hair or anything, I'll need to bring
my readers, my eyes are 55 yrs old.  I know they'll be back in the same spots, just a
gut feeling, because all of the activity over the past 9 years has been centered around
these nests, and I didn't even know they existed until 2019.

  I guess bringing in an expert, would be a good thing, but I don't want to go public
yet, because of ridicule and risk to my occupation.  So how do you broach the subject
with a scientifically minded person, without looking like a whack job?  That is why,
if I can get independent verification of these types of nests, it would actually go
a long way towards understanding.  These nests validate rule #1, never be seen by people.
They are created once all the snow melts, because once all the snow melts,
the forest people can leave their winter abodes(they don't migrate) without leaving
foot prints.  They place the twigs on the ground to help guard against cold and wet.
The new green twigs are much better than old brown twigs for creature comfort.  Once,
the end of May hits, they'll still use the nests, but there is no need to replenish
the green twigs because of years of twig buildup.  And by the end of May,
they'll have full leaf cover to hide their movements.  This fits the scenario for
what I have been witnessing.

  Don't worry about me not finding any more evidence, because these nests, along with
past experiences, have helped me narrow down their inner most sanctum.  And if I see
the nests again, I will check every trail I know on the 4 mile circumference of this
hill, because that will let me narrow it down even further.  These are nests for
bigfoot sentries to watch out for humans, no doubt in my mind.  And their inner most
sanctum is the hardest part of the hill to reach.

  I am urging others, because most people here already know or believe in the existence
of the forest people, as I like to call them.  Independent verification affords me
some credibility, and also reinforces a likely profile.  But I am starting to wonder,
how many actual boots on the ground do we have?  I am starting to think that I am all
alone in central New England, because of the response thus far.  But I will report back,
no matter what comes.  Someday, I'll get some people smarter than me involved,
but not just yet.

Thanks.

1 hour ago, Twist said:

@hiflier

I'm not the one that down voted you but I"m guessing its because you came off a bit critical.  He's out there hiking the woods and documenting what he finds.   My opinion on his nest find aside, he's out there presenting his opinion and his finds via video which is better than most.   You seem to come off as saying because he has been doing this for X years but not getting science involved is a bit preachy.    Especially considering most BF'ers always tote the "I"m not trying to prove it to anyone else" line.   He's out there doing his thing and presenting his findings.  He's not bringing science into it but he is not required to do so, your post could give the impression he owes something to science or the field.   

 

Just my thoughts, not saying it was your message.  

Hey guys, I definitely didn't down vote anybody, in fact I'm new here, I don't even know how to down vote.

Actually, If you read my new user message I wrote,  I have very thick skin, so ask anything you want, just don't be dumb

and insult my family, religion, or President, because I also have very big fists.

[hiflier]

A VERY cool post. You know you're candidness goes a long way, as does your open attitude and confidence for discussion. You bring up some good deductions obviously from your years dealing with your area of focus and it's good to have your insights. As far as how to approach someone "on the outside" without going public? Let me know if and when you start thinking along those line and we'll have a nice private chat. Thanks again for addressing my thoughts on things. Much appreciated.  

[7.62]

Felix you are a gentlemen