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[ShadowBorn]

Felix

A lot of us have done exactly what you have done . We have all come up with different results when we have posted our opinions on things like this. Some of the stuff that you have posted is hard to make judgement on it since they are so close to trails.  Again we do not expect this from these creatures . I can say that I have found bedded down grass in fields. Have also found Close by blinds near game trails  that I would say that are not made by man. So your find is possible that it was made by these creatures  as observation posts. They might even be used for dispatching deer along those trails as well.

 

  Now You did say that you have found nice size rocks along these spots. Is this true? I ask this since I have also found rocks along trail where I have found deer tracks and human tracks walk on. It seems as though that deer seem to follow the easiest path possible at night. During hunting season I find deer tracks on the trails leading to my stand. At these times I would find nice hand size rocks along these trails. What I use to do is place deer scent on my boots as I walked to my stand to get deer to my stand. 

 

The other thing that I would like to know is if there are a lot people who visit this area or is it a lonely area ? This could explain why you might be getting escorted out and having things thrown at you.

[FelixTheCat]

13 hours ago, ShadowBorn said:

Felix

A lot of us have done exactly what you have done . We have all come up with different results when we have posted our opinions on things like this. Some of the stuff that you have posted is hard to make judgement on it since they are so close to trails.  Again we do not expect this from these creatures . I can say that I have found bedded down grass in fields. Have also found Close by blinds near game trails  that I would say that are not made by man. So your find is possible that it was made by these creatures  as observation posts. They might even be used for dispatching deer along those trails as well.

 

  Now You did say that you have found nice size rocks along these spots. Is this true? I ask this since I have also found rocks along trail where I have found deer tracks and human tracks walk on. It seems as though that deer seem to follow the easiest path possible at night. During hunting season I find deer tracks on the trails leading to my stand. At these times I would find nice hand size rocks along these trails. What I use to do is place deer scent on my boots as I walked to my stand to get deer to my stand. 

 

The other thing that I would like to know is if there are a lot people who visit this area or is it a lonely area ? This could explain why you might be getting escorted out and having things thrown at you.

 

Dear ShadowBorn,

     Thank you for your reply.  I hope no one got offended by me
questioning the number of field researchers in central New England.  
I meant no disrespect, but I really wonder how many boots on the
ground we have.  I am new here, so maybe 6 months from now, I might
be asking myself,"why did I say that?".  

    But anyways, moving foward, your bedded down grass nests are
great, because once again it shows a flesh and blood creature,
getting some comfort on a soft natural material.
Everything they do is to keep a low profile, not be seen, and
not leave a trace.  That strategy has served them well for
thousands of years.  

  I like your deer scented boots idea when you walk to your stand.
I have found hunting blinds close to the hill and some even halfway
up the hill, but none are on the hill.
  Why?  Well in my opinion, its just too much work for the hunters,
to trek in, and harder yet, to get out carrying a big deer in
potentially deep snow.

     Now the rocks.  The rocks are usually a bit bigger than a
golf ball and a bit smaller than a baseball.  There is usuallly
a few of them on the trail/game trail in certain areas.  Those
areas are what I like to call ambush points.  I believe they
hunt with stones, so they could easily kill people if they
wanted to, but they don't kill people (usually), and I think
that says a lot about their intelligence.  Just like the hunters
who can't pull the trigger when they have a bigfoot in the
crosshairs of a rifle.

    The area - This is definitely a lonely area.  There are no
marked trails, mostly private property, and some conservation
land.  I sought the area out while looking for high ground
with little to no human presence.  Not easy to do in Massachusetts,
but it is possible to varying degrees.

   When I was escorted out, it was not because I was in their area.
It was because I was very close to their winter hideout in the middle
of winter, something they never expected, and they had to make me
leave, because I would have found their prints in the snow.  That is
a story for a different day.  But having things thrown at me, is not
scary at all, I seek interaction, and have a great deal of success
during the months of full leaf cover.  They don't want to hit you,
they only want to get your attention for reasons of their own.
Perhaps to distract you from going a certain direction, perhaps to
watch you do stupid human tricks.  I think they hunt with the rocks,
but they also use them for misdirection.  

   They also use the rocks to communicate.  They are wild animals,
and wild animals are afraid of interacting with other animals because
of something called the food chain.  Everything in nature is part of
the food chain, even apex predators that are weak or sick.  They are
also not all-knowing, you can catch them by surprise under the right
conditions, like rain the night before making the forest floor quiet,
or coming over a hill not seen or heard till you crest the hill, or
around a bend, again not seen or heard till you get around the bend.
When you catch them by surprise, you will often hear rock clacking.
Rock clacking is a message to people in my opinion.  If they use rocks
for hunting, they must be carrying rocks in their hands, so the sound
of rock clacking can occur as soon as you surprise them.  But what
does it mean?  Is it a threat to say keep away, or else I'm going to
throw a rock at you?  The clacking has always dissipated, and I believe
that it is because they realize it is humans.  But you startled them and
their initial response was to clack rocks.  Did you ever hear of the
axiom, that if you suspect a bear is in the area, starting banging
two rocks together to drive it away?  Well why would a bear be afraid
of the sound of rock clacking?  Think about it.

 

Thanks for responding.

 

[BobbyO]

Yep kudos Felix for being open.

 

The rock thing is real interesting to me, we all know about the rocks found at the nest site in the Olympics right ? Absolutely definitely 'clacked' rocks with the markings to show as such too, found literally an arms reach of one of the nests. Same kind of size to what Felix is describing here too.

 

Interesting to think they possibly hunt with rocks too, i'd never thought that way, always thought of rocks as a communication tool but when you take in to consideration how accurate their throwing is alleged to be, I've heard far worse ideas than them using them for hunting too, that's for sure.

[NorthWind]

The two stones I found sitting on a downed tree right after a very clear rock clack were about the same size. The clacking came 15 minutes after a double wood knock, (as in knock, knock), and that one fifteen minutes after the first double knock. All three incidents were getting closer to us each time. So knock, knock. 15 minutes. Knock, knock, 15 minutes (sticks popping). Rock clack (clack clack).Then I walked toward the sound. Photo posted in the Lane County Bigfooters section. 

 

I think these were used for signalling. I imagine if one were trying to take out a deer, a rock the size of a cantaloupe would be a very effective weapon hurled with force and accuracy, especially in a crossfire. And I think they are more than capable of doing just that.

 

[FelixTheCat]

1 hour ago, NorthWind said:

The two stones I found sitting on a downed tree right after a very clear rock clack were about the same size. The clacking came 15 minutes after a double wood knock, (as in knock, knock), and that one fifteen minutes after the first double knock. All three incidents were getting closer to us each time. So knock, knock. 15 minutes. Knock, knock, 15 minutes (sticks popping). Rock clack (clack clack).Then I walked toward the sound. Photo posted in the Lane County Bigfooters section. 

 

I think these were used for signalling. I imagine if one were trying to take out a deer, a rock the size of a cantaloupe would be a very effective weapon hurled with force and accuracy, especially in a crossfire. And I think they are more than capable of doing just that.

 

 

Dear Northwind,
   Interesting, that you were able to scare them off their stones.
They probably retreated after you walked towards them?   
Signaling can be part of hunting, like coralling or driving the prey.
You mentioned the sounds were getting closer.

  I once saw a youtube video about a native American
living on one of the reservations,  and he talked about bigfoot hunting
with stones and in the same video, he demonstrated how he was able
to kill a deer with a less than baseball sized stone.  The secret was
to hitting the deer at the base of the skull where the first neck vertebra
are located.  I haven't been able to find that video again, probably
because of animal rights violations?  This was about 8 years ago,

but maybe somebody can find it.

   What creature in nature exerts more energy than necessary
to complete a given task?

 

You may be correct, but nobody really knows for sure.

FTC

[norseman]

On 4/10/2020 at 5:38 AM, SackScratch said:

 

the entire continent of North America was covered in even Grizzly Bears until Europeans Exterminated them, not to mention a hundred other creatures!

 

No. No it wasnt.....

 

Grizzly bears were never found on the east coast.

[SackScratch]

1 hour ago, norseman said:

 

No. No it wasnt.....

 

Grizzly bears were never found on the east coast.

Yeah, I'm sure they stayed behind that imaginary fence... same way they keep changing the dates of how long native americans were in North America, I know it's been pushed back thousands of years from what it says in my elementary school history books.  No doubt Europe was covered in big animals like Africa and they hunted them to Extinction...  Maybe the "Great Replacement" is Karma... what comes around goes around!!

[norseman]

13 minutes ago, SackScratch said:

Yeah, I'm sure they stayed behind that imaginary fence... same way they keep changing the dates of how long native americans were in North America, I know it's been pushed back thousands of years from what it says in my elementary school history books.  No doubt Europe was covered in big animals like Africa and they hunted them to Extinction...  Maybe the "Great Replacement" is Karma... what comes around goes around!!

 

That imaginary fence is called “habitat” in biology.....

 

Grizzly bears like more open habitat. Black bears prefer dense forests. 

[BobbyO]

13 hours ago, SackScratch said:

Yeah, I'm sure they stayed behind that imaginary fence... same way they keep changing the dates of how long native americans were in North America, I know it's been pushed back thousands of years from what it says in my elementary school history books.  No doubt Europe was covered in big animals like Africa and they hunted them to Extinction...  Maybe the "Great Replacement" is Karma... what comes around goes around!!

 

Dear oh dear !

[NatFoot]

Has anyone here ever watched a baseball game?

 

Do you know how hard it is to throw a rock/ball at force and distance? Even professionals have a hard time hitting an imaginary strike zone...but you want me to believe that BF hunt with rocks smaller than a baseball but bigger than a gollfball?

 

Think about what you're saying for God's sake. This is ludicrous.

[Incorrigible1]

More of the Bigfoot Mythos.

[norseman]

28 minutes ago, NatFoot said:

Has anyone here ever watched a baseball game?

 

Do you know how hard it is to throw a rock/ball at force and distance? Even professionals have a hard time hitting an imaginary strike zone...but you want me to believe that BF hunt with rocks smaller than a baseball but bigger than a gollfball?

 

Think about what you're saying for God's sake. This is ludicrous.

It’s not ludicrous. Did you ever play around with a sling as a kid? Or just threw rocks at targets? Did you ever kill anything? I killed grouse out of trees.

 

Mind you I have no idea if Bigfoot uses rocks to hunt with or anything like that. Only that with opposable thumbs and lots of practice it is possible to hunt with rocks. At least for small game. Not sure how effective it’s gonna be against Deer and Elk.
 

 

[NatFoot]

23 minutes ago, norseman said:

It’s not ludicrous. Did you ever play around with a sling as a kid? Or just threw rocks at targets? Did you ever kill anything? I killed grouse out of trees.

 

Mind you I have no idea if Bigfoot uses rocks to hunt with or anything like that. Only that with opposable thumbs and lots of practice it is possible to hunt with rocks. At least for small game. Not sure how effective it’s gonna be against Deer and Elk.
 

 

 

Sure I did. I killed a squirrel with a large rock as a child. But it was very close and our squirrels were used to human presence. 

 

You want me to believe BF throws large rocks at short distances to crush squirrels and other small game? Ok. But goofball size rocks at force and distance for anything? Not going to believe that.

[norseman]

18 minutes ago, NatFoot said:

 

Sure I did. I killed a squirrel with a large rock as a child. But it was very close and our squirrels were used to human presence. 

 

You want me to believe BF throws large rocks at short distances to crush squirrels and other small game? Ok. But goofball size rocks at force and distance for anything? Not going to believe that.

Im not talking about crushing something with a large rock like at arms reach.

 

Im talking about a golf ball or smaller sized rock at 20-30 feet. It’s completely possible. Because I have done it as a kid. We would walk logging roads and kill grouse with rocks. It saved us money on shells. Grouse are dumb and will usually stay put on a limb unless you got too close.

 

I think your pitcher analogy proves my point. Humans are capable of doing this. And I would bet our archaic ancestors did as well.

 

Google “primitive weapons or hunting with stones”.

[FelixTheCat]

2 hours ago, NatFoot said:

Has anyone here ever watched a baseball game?

 

Do you know how hard it is to throw a rock/ball at force and distance? Even professionals have a hard time hitting an imaginary strike zone...but you want me to believe that BF hunt with rocks smaller than a baseball but bigger than a gollfball?

 

Think about what you're saying for God's sake. This is ludicrous.

I know its not ludicrous, because I saw a native American on a reservation, kill a deer with a rock.  Saw it on youtube, the guy was legit in my opinion.  So if a human can do it......

 

Besides, we grew up in the woods, my brothers and my friends, became quite adept at hitting our targets, at least out to 50 feet.

 

Thanks