ShadowBorn Posted January 27, 2021 Moderator Posted January 27, 2021 Well my opinion is that the powers that be do not want to change history. They want history to stay the way it stands. These creatures can change our history if the truth is known. So science will keep us amused with these expeditions so that the truth does not get found out. So what's hidden stays hidden. This is what they want and why they are not interested. Other wise we would not be doing all the leg work. The creature would already have been found by science and we would not be having these conversations. 1 1
Believer57 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, ShadowBorn said: Well my opinion is that the powers that be do not want to change history. They want history to stay the way it stands. I can't argue with that. However, it seems that technology and social media may have tipped the scales.
Arvedis Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) I'm not an academic but I do read their stuff if it interests me. It's a very precise formula. Either you have something that you can prove with solid data and analysis or you don't impress others in your specific field. No one cares at all about making assumptions. That is career suicide. Since no one is going to leap to conclusions or push theories they can't substantiate, if the subject matter is inconclusive, what they do is wait for better tools, evidence, ways to study, or something gets shelved until someone else decides to investigate. That is why analysis changes and there are new findings. Academics often do not agree with each other so you get different outputs. Human evolution is especially delicate. Better really have your ducks in a row to dive in there. Most don't so you see the same names pop up on scientific articles. Meldrum carries the title of tenured academic but he has no relevance to his academic peers. No one in any area of paleoanthropology regards Meldrum as legit. He's just a guy in the boonies at podunk university that makes a living at bf conferences and reality shows, of which Meldrum is more than happy to clear his schedule so he can get face time, even with a doink like todd standing, who offers nothing to academic study. Edited January 27, 2021 by Arvedis 1
BobbyO Posted January 28, 2021 SSR Team Posted January 28, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 4:40 PM, Believer57 said: Perhaps that is why they focus on the Yeti over there. hiflier had mentioned that he was puzzled by the emphasis on the Yeti. It also has the NIMBY appeal. I'll believe in it but Not In My BackYard! You sure you're not getting 'Britain' mixed up with 'Bhutan' ? There's no Yeti's here in the UK neither.
Believer57 Posted January 29, 2021 Author Posted January 29, 2021 16 hours ago, BobbyO said: You sure you're not getting 'Britain' mixed up with 'Bhutan' ? Actually, I meant you and not hiflier. Perhaps the focus on the Yeti (Attenborough and others in the U.K.) is because of the local lack of creatures. The Yeti may also have more positive public appeal since Bhutan, Tibet, and Nepal are considered more undiscovered than North America. It may be an easier sell for people to wrap their minds around than having them in your backyard (NIMBY). When I first came to realize that Bigfoot was real, it wasn't an easy acceptance. There are many discoveries in life that take time for your mind to digest. What I was taught in school may not always be correct. A cautious person searches for multiple sources.
hiflier Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) Agreed. Extraordinary denial requires extraordinary closed mindedness. In other words, I no longer think extraordinary claims require evidence that's all that extraordinary. Edited January 29, 2021 by hiflier
Arvedis Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, hiflier said: Agreed. Extraordinary denial requires extraordinary closed mindedness. In other words, I no longer think extraordinary claims require evidence that's all that extraordinary. It's extraordinary that you would make such an extraordinary statement. 1
BobbyO Posted January 29, 2021 SSR Team Posted January 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Believer57 said: Actually, I meant you and not hiflier. Perhaps the focus on the Yeti (Attenborough and others in the U.K.) is because of the local lack of creatures. The Yeti may also have more positive public appeal since Bhutan, Tibet, and Nepal are considered more undiscovered than North America. It may be an easier sell for people to wrap their minds around than having them in your backyard (NIMBY). When I first came to realize that Bigfoot was real, it wasn't an easy acceptance. There are many discoveries in life that take time for your mind to digest. What I was taught in school may not always be correct. A cautious person searches for multiple sources. I wouldn't say there's a focus, or at least more of a focus, on the yeti over anything else here i the UK personally, and i have the misfortune of both being from the UK and residing here for much more longer than i would like, especially in the last few years. There's probably more BF/Sas on TV than there is Yeti for example. Of course then there's the nut jobs that seem to think we have healthy breeding unidentified primate populations roaming 60 year old forests here too but the less said about that the better.
Gambacha1311 Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 3:18 PM, ShadowBorn said: Well my opinion is that the powers that be do not want to change history. They want history to stay the way it stands. These creatures can change our history if the truth is known. So science will keep us amused with these expeditions so that the truth does not get found out. So what's hidden stays hidden. This is what they want and why they are not interested. Other wise we would not be doing all the leg work. The creature would already have been found by science and we would not be having these conversations. I agree with this, there's been many cases of giant skeletons found but they always fizzle out and nothing becomes of them that we the public know about. It's like if it doesn't fit the narrative it's thrown in the closet and forgotten.
BlackRockBigfoot Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Gambacha1311 said: I agree with this, there's been many cases of giant skeletons found but they always fizzle out and nothing becomes of them that we the public know about. It's like if it doesn't fit the narrative it's thrown in the closet and forgotten. It's obvious that the news is controlled in cases like this. The flow of information is stifled and, given modern short attention spans, stories are allowed to fade away. I have mentioned it on here before, but a perfect example of this is the Texas monkey attacks from late 2019. It made national headlines for a few days after a mysterious primate was attacking children, pets,and later even adults. Pretty crazy story, huh? Then, the story just drops off and is never mentioned again. No word of an escaped chimpanzee being captured or a monkey being shot. The story just stopped. Even if the national news had moved on to the next sensational story, you would think that something like that would be of a local or even regional interest. But, you never heard about it again. No resolution. Even if the thing just disappeared, you would have expected to hear something about it. But... nothing. I have often thought that if the day comes when someone shoots a Sasquatch and has the body... what are the odds that the government just rolls in, takes the body, produces a dead chimpanzee that they claim escaped from a zoo and was shot, and the story just disappears a day later. The vast majority of the population will never question it and will call crazy anyone who does. 1
hiflier Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Plussed there BRB My novel is about a development company that is exterminating Sasquatches to keep the public from knowing they exist in the forest to be developed. The last one in the story that was shot was removed and replaced with a dead bear to make it look like a bear poaching incident. But my story is only fiction right? The WA nesting discovery hit some MSM outlets when it was first announced. Then disappeared. The follow-up e-DNA results only showed up of a couple of podcasts. So the the whole thing left the public's psyche only days after the original announcement and the media never went back to the public with any findings. Ah well......
Gambacha1311 Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 I'm pretty confident people have killed these things before whatever type of government or wild life services get involved they just make it disappear. And they threaten everyone involved with it that's not on their team with termination and ruining their reputations if they come forward with what happened. I can't say every story where I have heard of something similar to this happening is true, but I'm pretty sure some sort of government agency had received a body but it doesn't fit the narrative for them to be real so they just keep burying it. But that brings me to my next point, if someone does come across a body who do we call to verify it where the body isn't going to disappear? Going Live on your social media program might help to solidify the body to an extent. But you need a scientist to really do an examination of the body, it's a damned if you do damned if you don't kind of thing. Not everyone has a scientist on speed dial especially one that isn't going to ridicule you and then call the law on you to take the body away. I know if I hit one with a car and it died and I was physically able to put it in the truck I'd probably just go home til I could figure out who to contact. Or at the very least take some hands and the head if I had time to do it. Maybe call the media but they are just as bad as the agencies covering up the thing in the first place. Who or where would you go if that happened to you?
hiflier Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 The perfect scenario? Researchers might think about working that out before ever finding a specimen for study. Something like: "Hi, Professor Doe?" "Yes." "I'm a Sasquatch investigatot. If I ever come across one, would you be interested in studying it?" "HAH! In your dreams, kid."
ShadowBorn Posted February 6, 2021 Moderator Posted February 6, 2021 It will not matter where we find this creatures body in the world. The forces that be do not want it to be known. They would rather hide the truth to protect us from knowing it. Think about what I am saying. They know that it would change the way that we believe and how we believe. Everything that we thought that were lies would now all become true. What has been written would have to be re-written. Our beliefs would be changed literally over night. There would be panic in our world over these creatures after knowing what they are. So as they stay amongst them selves we will never know the full truth. JMO
Gambacha1311 Posted February 6, 2021 Posted February 6, 2021 I totally agree with you. It's sad really but what can we do? Not much at the moment. It took like 70 years for the government to admit UFO's were real and flying around messing with jets in our skies. I'm hoping the big guy will be added to that list at some point.
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