Dr. Melba Ketchum Schedule To Speak About Sasquatch Dna On October 1, 2011

[Guest slimwitless]

In an email from Troy Hudson, Honobia organizer:

She (Dr. Ketchum) was packed and ready to go as of Thursday and she got a phone call. I can't say what it was about, but she called me and told me to come and video something for the conference.

Did he happen to mention if it was an international call?

[wolftrax]

Rod, If you are having fun then it is not wasting your time to be here.

Sooner or later everyone here will know the results of the research.

I fear that we have skeptics here who are telling us their version of the truth.

Sometimes I believe that skeptics post items just to stir us all up, and to cause us not to believe in these projects.

I could post all kinds of lies here, and who could definitively call me a liar?

There are people here whom I trust, and I'm hanging on, sometimes by my fingernails, but I'm still hanging here waiting with the rest of you.

With all of the BF smoke being blown I'm thinking that there is a fire someplace, so results will be published and released to the general public.

National news will cover it, probably some will make jokes, but still the DNA will prove their existence.

Give it a few years where you see this sort of thing happen again, and again, and again, the constant hype and build up and the exhilarating excitement and anticipation, and then the resulting crash and burn of disappointment when it's nothing as it was hyped up to be, and you will become the "Skeptic" you disdain.

[Guest]

Did he happen to mention if it was an international call?

I think another way to look as this would be; what else would cause her to skip a scheduled event like this? A family emergency yes, but is that be something that would be considered confidential, or would aj's scenario be more in line with the secrecy involved?

[Guest Forbig]

Give it a few years where you see this sort of thing happen again, and again, and again, the constant hype and build up and the exhilarating excitement and anticipation, and then the resulting crash and burn of disappointment when it's nothing as it was hyped up to be, and you will become the "Skeptic" you disdain.

The old roller coaster ride to nowhere, good point but I'll never become one of them if I ever get to a point where I don't believe its possible I'm out of here.

[Guest]

I'm not sure what a lot of people are up in arms about? It's tough to compare and contrast the Ketchum DNA work, with past projects, and BF revelations simply because this type of 'project' is unprecedented. She honestly doesn't owe anybody anything, and any questions she has tried to answer seem to be out of courtesy for the certain individuals who ask. There's substance to what she is doing, and it's not going to turn into some sort of ruse where there is an epic let down. I don't necessarily know if it's going to be the end-all of BF 'proof', but it will open the door for A LOT of interest, and possible funding to various scientists, and there will be more of a concerted effort to prove existence. Our W.L Dept just got a huge grant, and will more than likely expand our surveys to encompass one more creature in the woods, if all goes well:) There are wildlife biologists who KNOW that they are real, but it will take something like DNA evidence to justify using grant money to research them...Trust me on that one;) Good luck, Melba!

Edited October 3, 2011 by PacNWSquatcher

[Guest RedRatSnake]

Hi

Hey Forbig! the cool thing about the forum is it ain't all about BF, So if it ends up a bust you still will have a place to go and Pal around ~

Tim

[Guest]

Southernyahoo, we found this on Facebook of one of the organizers saying the video was taken in anticipation of her not appearing. Note the date. They apparently knew something well in advance, so the claims of a trip to Germany smells fishy.

Just my 2 cents worth on the matter.

People of the academic caliber that Melba is apparently dealing with have people(supplicants) come to them.

I'm not surprised at all that she chose to rush to Germany.

[Guest]

Tautriadelta said:

Hmm I own a home in Polk county on Lake Livingston, a vacation house, only an hour drive from my primary residence . Livingston is the county seat. I may drop by and see if I can dig up something.

Susi asks:

Is this anywhere near Houston, or the Woodlands area north of Houston?

Our daughter and son in love(law ) live there and we are spending this Thanksgiving with them.

Will I be close to any of this? I could go with backup because my guys will be with me..

[Guest]

Tautriadelta said:

Hmm I own a home in Polk county on Lake Livingston, a vacation house, only an hour drive from my primary residence . Livingston is the county seat. I may drop by and see if I can dig up something.

Susi asks:

Is this anywhere near Houston, or the Woodlands area north of Houston?

Our daughter and son in love(law ) live there and we are spending this Thanksgiving with them.

Will I be close to any of this? I could go with backup because my guys will be with me..

My farm is 45 minutes NW of the Woodlands, or about 1 1/2 hours north of Houston. Livingston is situated on US 59 roughly 1 to 1 1/2 hours NE of me. So not too far at all. You could make an easy afternoon or morning of a round trip. I sure wish I had a name to go with the police report though...unless ranger Branson's name happens to be on the report since he is/was the property owner.

Edited October 4, 2011 by Tautriadelta

[Guest]

Of the more well known Bigfoot conferences, Honobia seems to be most open to the idea of Bigfoot as human and this probably was the reason for the Paulides/Ketchum invitation.

Like some others here, I'm not sure why there are bad feelings over Ketchum's no show. If she gave a presentation prior to publication, she would not have enlightened us much. If she gave a presentation post publication, the news would already be disseminated prior to Honobia. I guess people were expecting a real "sneak peak" and a revelation before a general dissemination.

I doubt the Germany story. It sounds too -- should I say -- mythical. The intrepid country girl scientist makes a paradigm shaking discovery and must stand up to her evil critics, the monocle wearing, billy goat bearded intelligentsia with Dr. Strangelove accents, and conquer their biases with truth and good old-fashioned horse-sense. (I think I saw something like this in a pro-creationism comic book: the monocle wearing, billy goat bearded German accented know-it-all evolutionist college professor is taken down by a clean cut fundamentalist student.)

Keep in mind that at the conference Paulides said he thought most scientists will probably ignore Ketchum's paper and that the best he hopes for is that one or two previously fence setting scientists might have the curiousity to examine her paper seriously. This certainly does not sound like he knew that she was off to the Plank Institute. His remarks make me think that the paper will not be conclusive and will not settle the issue.

And consider Ketchum's own previous remarks. She has not said (to my knowledge) that her paper will change the world of anthropology, zoology, biology, etc. All I remember her saying is that the Bigfoot community will be pleased by her paper.

[Guest]

The check is in the mail.

Maybe they will pay the rent eventually, but personally I don't want to hear more from them until they are ready--really ready--- to go public within the week. They have taxed public patience enough. They are only eroding their integrity and believability at this point, making themselves look worse and worse.

"They" are not the ones talking, are they?

Are they the people putting out these facts, or is it others putting a puzzle together and figuring out what it all means, and then talking about it?

I'm not hearing anything from Melba that I'm aware of, have any of you?

Please share if you do, Heaven knows I don't wish to miss any facts about the big revealing if someone has any info.

[Guest slimwitless]

I doubt the Germany story. It sounds too -- should I say -- mythical. The intrepid country girl scientist makes a paradigm shaking discovery and must stand up to her evil critics, the monocle wearing, billy goat bearded intelligentsia with Dr. Strangelove accents, and conquer their biases with truth and good old-fashioned horse-sense.

That's pretty good. Have you noticed that Stubstad sounds like Jimmy Stewart? It's all coming together.

[southernyahoo]

Of the more well known Bigfoot conferences, Honobia seems to be most open to the idea of Bigfoot as human and this probably was the reason for the Paulides/Ketchum invitation.

Like some others here, I'm not sure why there are bad feelings over Ketchum's no show. If she gave a presentation prior to publication, she would not have enlightened us much. If she gave a presentation post publication, the news would already be disseminated prior to Honobia. I guess people were expecting a real "sneak peak" and a revelation before a general dissemination.

I doubt the Germany story. It sounds too -- should I say -- mythical. The intrepid country girl scientist makes a paradigm shaking discovery and must stand up to her evil critics, the monocle wearing, billy goat bearded intelligentsia with Dr. Strangelove accents, and conquer their biases with truth and good old-fashioned horse-sense. (I think I saw something like this in a pro-creationism comic book: the monocle wearing, billy goat bearded German accented know-it-all evolutionist college professor is taken down by a clean cut fundamentalist student.)

Keep in mind that at the conference Paulides said he thought most scientists will probably ignore Ketchum's paper and that the best he hopes for is that one or two previously fence setting scientists might have the curiousity to examine her paper seriously. This certainly does not sound like he knew that she was off to the Plank Institute. His remarks make me think that the paper will not be conclusive and will not settle the issue.

And consider Ketchum's own previous remarks. She has not said (to my knowledge) that her paper will change the world of anthropology, zoology, biology, etc. All I remember her saying is that the Bigfoot community will be pleased by her paper.

Someone asked at the conference what website they could go to , to find out about the news when it breaks, Paulides said they would only need to watch CNN because it will be world news. It sounds like he feels the media will lap it up, but the scientific community will be slower to accept the discovery.

[Guest]

AJ that is exciting news. I always hoped that someone would do the DNA work on sasquatch here and team up with the Max Planck Institute people or at least make them aware of the possibilities. If they considered it important enough to send for her and discuss it with her in person, and were willing to foot the bill for a big plane ticket then I really do believe something big is coming. That does raise my hopes a great deal. Yes, it was tough on the folks who ponied up to do the Honobia conference and I think I too would be wanting my money back if what I had expected and paid for didn't turn up.

Unless Melba keeps her passport current she may have had to wait for an updated renewed or a new passport and that can take 2 weeks or more if it is requested as a rush, longer if just getting a passport to just have one and to keep it current.You have to get new pictures each time. They won't let you keep the same picture. ..

I've allowed mine to lapse but I don't foresee any sudden need of flying off to a foreign country so I think that I'm okay. .

[Guest]

Give it a few years where you see this sort of thing happen again, and again, and again, the constant hype and build up and the exhilarating excitement and anticipation, and then the resulting crash and burn of disappointment when it's nothing as it was hyped up to be, and you will become the "Skeptic" you disdain.

Oh, Wolftrax, I don't disdain anyone at all, especially here.

I understand the terrible disappointment, I feel it too, I'm just sincerely trying to look on the bright side and hope that we will all be seeing actual verified results sooner rather then later. I sincerely thought that I was offering comfort, not disdain towards anyone at all.

I've also been involved and waiting with baited breath for years upon years, so I understand where you are coming from.