Can You Really Shoot A Bigfoot?

[Huntster]

4 hours ago, MIB said:

........no agency has an internal training or policy instructing their employees how to deal with a bigfoot report........

 

I agree. They also state that they don't keep statistics on such reports if asked.They claim complete and total disregard for the phenomenon. In short, it's a policy of intentional ignorance, or the policy of ignoring.

[Huntster]

3 hours ago, norseman said:

.........The government denied the existence of UFO’s for a long time. Swamp gas, Jupiter, mass delusion, etc. The whole subject was laughed at by science. Now? The government has admitted that they are studying the phenomenon with all seriousness. NASA has jumped on board as well. 
 

So the precedence has been set before for government cover up. So why can’t it be happening right now with other phenomena?

 

Ive struggled with the reasoning behind the why?........

 

This UFO admission has occurred literally simultaneously with the creation of the Space Force. 

 

Congress, get to funding............

 

42 minutes ago, hiflier said:

So. Besides shooting a Sasquatch or collecting it's DNA are there any other ways to skin this cat?

 

Catch a sasquatch live and release it in the U.S. Capitol.

 

Do it next January 6th.

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Huntster

[MIB]

4 hours ago, hiflier said:

By not telling the public they don't exist t

 

That's what I was afraid you were saying.  :(    I'm disappointed in you.   You should know better than "going there."   ==> You can't prove a negative.   The strongest negative statement they could make is that they .. the individual speaking, not even their agency ..  are not aware of proof of existence.  

[MIB]

1 hour ago, hiflier said:

So. Besides shooting a Sasquatch or collecting it's DNA are there any other ways to skin this cat?

 

Ah, back on topic.   Probably not.   I think your suggestion is on track.   I think you have to get DNA samples "somehow" and get them in the hands of enough credentialed scientists to draw interest and research dollars.    Enough scientists from enough places that it would be difficult to subvert them all simultaneously.     Come up with your list of labs to do testing.   Keep that list to yourself.   Spilling it here or anywhere else opens up the possibility of someone, if there is a someone, monitoring you and "heading you off at the pass" by contacting your labs ahead of time and telling them what results to report back to you.

 

I think the combination of enough DNA samples and maybe supporting photographs / video in enough different hands is the most probable way of cracking the puzzle.   You're not going to prove it directly yourself but you might attract enough resources to get it done.

[hiflier]

^^ And that's where I'm currently headed....short of contacting any labs. It's one thing to contact someone and simply trot out words. It's entirely another to do that while presenting evidence. Let's leave it at that.

[Twist]

Your currently headed there....except the point of.....being anonymous.    Your on here spewing your opinion and method.   How anonymous is that?   

[hiflier]

No one is truly anonymous here. Besides, in most cases, it doesn't really matter if anyone is anonymous or not. Norseman talks about shooting a Bigfoot. And he's not the least bit anonymous, and even though the act might be considered by some to be illegal, he doesn't seem worried. What I do isn't illegal at all and so I've never worried about how I do things. Is anyone stopping researchers from going into the field? Nope. Anyone stopping anyone from collecting samples for DNA testing? Nope. Anyone stopping anyone from emailing someone? Nope again- even if the intention is known by folks here along with the public.

 

Everyone gets to climb up the mountain should they choose to climb it. The climbing method will determine what happens when they get to the top. Which is safer and more secure? Telling no one so no one will know what happened to you because you risked going it alone? Or tell a thousand so that you're out in the open should anything happen while everyone is watching? Personally I think it comes down to whether what anyone is really doing is legal or not. If it's legal then why not let everyone know? Lots of folks here tell people what they're doing. Maybe not exactly where, but what. If I say I'm going to email a biologist in my state does that somehow raise a flag? Really doubt that. Is anyone watching me? Who isn't being watched these days, benignly or otherwise. Honestly? I don't care and have never cared.

 

 

[Twist]

If none of us are anonymous then how will DNA help?  They will intercept that as well.

[MIB]

I think you both miss the point.   It is not about whether YOU are anonymous.    It doesn't matter whether you gather DNA samples or other things to test.    It's not really about "intercepting."   It is about going to the labs and telling them "it's in their best interest" to tell you the sample was bear regardless of what it actually was.     What folks should keep silent about is where their samples will be tested if they are tested.   The higher the profile the lab has, the less likely you are to get valid results back 'cause "they" have already visited that lab ahead of you.  

[hiflier]

Of course, MIB. Where any samples go was never going to be part of any dialogue I have here. As the saying goes, I was born at night but not last night.

[Twist]

1 hour ago, MIB said:

I think you both miss the point.   It is not about whether YOU are anonymous.    It doesn't matter whether you gather DNA samples or other things to test.    It's not really about "intercepting."   It is about going to the labs and telling them "it's in their best interest" to tell you the sample was bear regardless of what it actually was.     What folks should keep silent about is where their samples will be tested if they are tested.   The higher the profile the lab has, the less likely you are to get valid results back 'cause "they" have already visited that lab ahead of you.  

Intercepted was meant to include any way of the government interfering with your results.  Be it physically taking samples from the mail or delivery service or intimidating the lab that you send it to.  
 

If you are able to go into the field, collect DNA and then send it to the lab in secrecy then why can Norseman not shoot one in his back 40 and hide the carcass in secrecy?   I’d venture a guess that the government Swatsquatch unit is not monitoring Norse each time he treks into the woods anymore than they monitor you when taking environmental samples.  
 

Keep in mind I don’t believe in the Swatsquatch  unit or the government intercepting DNA samples.  I’m trying to understand hifliers POV.   

[hiflier]

57 minutes ago, Twist said:

Keep in mind I don’t believe in the Swatsquatch  unit or the government intercepting DNA samples.  I’m trying to understand hifliers POV.

 

My point of view has been well stated and well stated often. The Sasquatch is an amazing creature- just unbelievably amazing. That point gets diluted as we get more and more desensitized to the idea simply by reducing the incredible nature of the phenomenon in our discussions. I have never not been blown away watching that short snippet of Patty at the top of the BFF's home page. To think that something like that is really out there in our wildernesses is almost to much to contemplate.

 

Why anyone would think that the Sasquatch is somehow so diminished in importance at an official level as to be either ignored or not thought of as an eye-opening, ground-breaking discovery possibility makes no sense. The creature, being what is, is in no way under the radar. Look at all the attention bears get. And yet the Sasquatch isn't equally, or more important, than bears?? I honestly do not understand that kind of a mindset. Again, my viewpoint has been well stated: This creature is monitored and there is no way that it isn't being monitored. It's huge in size, ancient, genetically very close to us, extremely rare, and would be a source of great knowledge that we could gain in so many areas of science if we were to study it.

 

It should have been discovered easily by now. Period. Bottom line is government doesn't need to monitor researchers. They monitor the Sasquatch instead which covers all of the bases including keeping it physically isolated from us.. And they do it with the sophisticated, high tech capability that I've so often brought up- like the international migration satellite monitoring services of at least three companies. And my research takes that viewpoint even deeper than what I just wrote. It has been difficult to impress upon folks just how vitally important this creature really is. And, therefore, how vitally important it is to keep this creature undiscovered- which is even easier today with the tools and knowledge that the government has access to. Bears are important but the Sasquatch is, over the top, even more so. And that stark reality should never be diminished.

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by hiflier

[Backdoc]

 

 

---------Man with gun sees Bigfoot

             

 

SHOOTS and MISSED  ------>   Bigfoot walks away  --->  The end.

 

 

---------Man with gun shoots bigfoot with NO Government conspiracy, cover-up, or pre-shooting concern whatsoever:

 

 

SHOOTS and KILLS BIGFOOT  ----->   announces he killed one   ----->  Media sensation  ------>   government officials show up and science people  ----->  He is on TV everywhere  -----> government game officials mention some concern on the legality of killing an animal like this  -----> that talk dies down as he is more of a famous hero than a famous villain.   ---->  Local law enforcement and the feds finally admit while they have their concerns of another shooting they admit that generally there isn't much of a law they can use to go after him and state and fed prosecutors have near zero motivation to go after him.    --------->   Quickly official positions are established should another one be shot and killed the next person will be in major trouble as the animal must be considered endangered or protected level.    ---->  Little motivation exists for othr to shoot the next one as they already have one.   ----->  major effort undertaken to photograph but not shoot the next one. ---->  science starts serious funding and effort to study the hide and seek champ.  Many of the same people on these Bigfoot shows now come forward and change from previous skeptics to say, "well I never said it was impossible we just required proof.  Now we seem to have that proof and let me tell you what I think this body is and you cand read my new book 'bigfoot is real just like we all thought.  Look how smart we were then and now.  Now ignore the fact we just completely changed out position"

 

 

 

 

-------Man with gun shoots bigfoot but the GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN HIDING BIGFOOT IN A CONSPIRCY TO KEEP THE TRUTH FROM THE PUBLIC FOR REASONS THAT MAKE NO SENSE TO ME.

 

 

SHOOTS and KILLS BIGFOOT  ----->   announces he killed one   ----->  Media sensation  ------>   government officials show up arrest him.   They take the body--->  before charges are brought they tell him he will cooperate with a government cover-up and they will reward him for it.  If he does not, he will go to prison. ----> government enacts their premade plan -should bigfoot ever be shot- to declare the matter a hoax.   They man gets on TV and admits (to save his own skin) the bigfoot things was a hoax ----->  After a bit the issue dies down the man gets his millions and always admits it was a hoax.   People ask to see the suit.  The suit is replicated by government people rather poorly to look like a hoax but good enough to pass the sniff test.  Body is put on ICE in some deep government vault in Area 51 or wherever.    Our Government contacts Marzakk leader of Galaxy X567 who looks exactly like Patty and apologizes for killing one of their ET visitors who was just exploring the woods on earth when he was shot.

 

 

 

 

 

There you have it.  I believe in 1 or 2 are possible.   For those who believe any version of #3 I am just trying to have a little fun and mean no offense.     

 

[hiflier]

Man shoots Bigfoot, tells no one. Gets turned in to authorities by lab. Rumors go through the BF community but no proof ever comes out. Public gets bored and forgets about it.

 

Man shoots Bigfoot, makes announcement, no one believes him. Media picks it up. Follow up stories never happen. Public gets bored and forgets about it.....which is exactly what happened with the WA nest discoveries. It got announced in mainstream media and then disappeared.....with zero follow up.

Edited December 1, 2022 by hiflier

[Backdoc]

^^^

 

 

 

If it is as you say, what is the motivation which explains the actions?  That is, what could explain the motivation for our government to want or need to keep Bigfoot's existence quiet?   Why is it necessary?

 

 

(I will likely be reading and avoid responding much further on this as the thread/ issue is heading in directions as a 'bridge too far' for me.  I don't want my responses to appear in any way disrespectful to the good intention of posters who think along these lines.  All the best and I'll keep reading)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by Backdoc