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    • Trogluddite
      Very good point, although the "gets dark around 4[:00 PM] there" part varies as well.  In 2020, Bob G told Les Stroud that it gets dark around 5:00 in that area.  I'm actually not too bothered by that because the encounter (purportedly) took place on 20 October 1967 and the US switches to Daylight Savings Time in the end of the October, so if one is talking casually, one might not factor in whether the clocks had fallen back yet.  In any event, according to Naval Observatory data for that day the sun set at 5:30 and there was still enough daylight to see/work by at almost 6:00 PM.  I will agree that being down on the valley floor, it probably got darker sooner rather than later.   However the bigger problem is whether "it was good and dark" when Roger and Bob got to Al Hodgson's store (Green interview of BG) or still daylight when they arrived (Bill Miller interview of Al Hodgson).        At this point, that is absolutely correct. 
    • Backdoc
      The most objective timecard HAS TO BE the shadows.   The sun is the sun each day every Oct 20th.   If he can match the lay of the land and tree shadows accurately to his model, then we know the time give or take.   If it is 3 pm then it is. The Q comes down to how much they could accomplish with a 3 pm encounter vs a 1:30 pm encounter.  Finally, it comes down to how accurately the estimate of Lazy Cowboy is.  If his model is right AND if his model can measure the shadow length accurately then it must be pretty close.  
    • Sircalum
      https://youtu.be/LlRatn60rVo   This is a real eye opener!
    • OldMort
      Gimlin stated in a "Coast to Coast" interview a few years back, that they were planning to "go in" about 35 or 40 miles that day and stay overnight.   Seems like a bit of a late start if they didn't leave till sometime after lunch and (according to Gimlin) it starts getting dark around 4 there.    
    • Trogluddite
      Unfortunately, Bob Gimlin is an unreliable witness (which does not mean I think he's lying).  With regards to this issue, he has said that the film site was:   two miles from the campsite - see Webster's interview of Roger & Bob in 1967 four miles from the campsite - see John Green's interview of Bob in 1992 and a CBS47 2019 interview of Bob Roger Patterson gave both those estimates and added 3 miles in an interview by Stan Peters Interview of Roger Patterson   As to the time they left camp, Bob has said: midday (which could be 1:30 during the summer, I suppose, but not in October) - see Robert Morgan's interview of Bob "right after lunch" (which could be anywhere from 11:00 AM if they were up early to 1:00ish) - Les Stroud's interview with Bob  and this 1:30 time, which I believe came from a CBS47 2019 interview of Bob - If I understand correctly, The Lazy Cowboy is using other people's interviews, not his own.   And leaving camp about 1:30 contradicts times Bob Gimlin has given for the encounter itself, which include: “about midday, perhaps a little bit after noon time” - again from John Green's interview of Bob in 1992 "Early afternoon" - attributed to John Green's questionnaire in Bigfoot at Bluff Creek by Danny (Daniel) Perez (2003) about 2:00 PM - Finding Bigfoot Legend (2018)   All of this because early interviewers asked both Roger and Bob to tell them a story, but did not conduct the kind of interview necessary to determine as precisely as possible the facts.    Also, I don't believe that The Lazy Cowboy (or anyone else) cherry-picked a certain interview because it better fits a narrative; instead, it seems a lot of of people are unfamiliar with (or unwilling to admit) the inconsistencies surrounding the P-G film. 
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