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Regarding the question of what a PhD is, let me put it to bed once and for all: It depends on your field of study as to how many credits and the length of time it will take to earn a doctorate. There is nothing written in stone that says it has to take 3-4 years after you earn a master's degree. There are different kinds of doctorates, those that go into medicine, like Dr. Ketchum have a "medical doctorate". My sister is a pharmacist, she has a "practitioner's doctorate". If I go back to school it will take me about 18 months to earn a "teaching doctorate" in nursing. To say Dr. Ketchum is not a scientist because she doesn't have 12 years of education is absolute nonsense. One usually has to participate in a research project to earn a doctorate regardless of the type earned. Doctorates of any kind require research papers/ projects using evidence based practice techniques i.e. the scientific method. This is the last time that doctoral degrees need to be discussed in this thread or any of the other threads related to this topic. I hope I have clarified this to the Nth degree, now back on topic, try to keep it respectful and to the point, no baiting please, you know who you are.