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No offense taken, because I think you are exactly right. Makes me wonder if you don't know a little more than you're admitting to. Keep talking like that & you'll soon be passing our sniff test. Thank you, Knuck. Those are some very good points. Sometimes I think the PC crowd has arrived here. Seems like we are expected to constantly bite our tongues so people that "don't be-leeeeve us" won't get "offended". THANK YOU JDL!!!!!!! That is the best analogy of this situation I have ever seen! You get my + as soon as I have another one. Knuck got today's. When we try to talk about our "extraordinary experiences that require extraordinary proof" in public here, (which we have to do, in order to find others like ourselves), we can't have a discussion for being jeered, booed, & shouted down. And then they wonder why some of us get sarcastic & condescending. I don't know about anybody else, but it's just how I survive. I refuse to be shouted down. This post will be printed, framed & hung on the wall. And, Mark: I don't think JDL was calling the members here mosquitoes, just comparing the behavior of some to them. Personally, I think it's a good comparison. We don't think it's unreasonable to be asked for proof of our statements, we just don't have proof of most of them. I can't walk around with a video camera ready to record, & several witnesses following me, every minute of every day. If I happen to be looking out the kitchen window, washing dishes, & see a bigfoot walk by, how am I going to prove it? Should I just forget it, because I don't have proof? Constantly badgering us for something we don't have won't make us produce it, & even makes us unwilling to show some of what we do have. There are a lot of things that happen to everybody every day, that they tell others about, without any proof to back it up. You simply can't prove everything that happens to you. If nobody ever told anything unless they had proof, there wouldn't be many Bigfoot reports out there.

So someone has a personal experience with bigfoot. But personal experiences with bigfoot aren't something one can easily share with their local social group. So they seek out the company of others like themselves with whom to share and compare experiences. They find this forum and they share info intended primarily for others who have had encounters. In return all they're looking for is more information from others like themselves. As they get to know and trust others on the forum, they may choose to share more with specific individuals. But the forum also includes members who haven't had encounters and are seeking proof that bigfoot does exist. Those seeking proof latch on to those who are simply here to share and demand, demand, demand. Prove it, prove it, prove it. So, from the perspective of those who came to share and learn, it turns out that there are mosquitoes at the barbecue. The mosquitoes want more than the person came to offer, and have little to offer in which the person is interested. Further, just because the person is at the barbeque does not mean that they have any obligation to provide blood for the mosquitoes. So what will they do? Will they leave? - the mosquitoes are simply too annoying. Will they stay, but stop communicating? - if they open their mouth to speak, they exhale carbon dioxide and the mosquitoes zero in on them. Will they simply ignore the mosquitoes as best they can? - though their enjoyment of the barbecue is diminished because they have to constantly be on guard. Will they study the mosquitoes? - after all, the mosquitoes' behavior is part of the phenomenon. Will they decide to communicate with the mosquitoes? - can they persuade the mosquitoes to respect their personal space, help themselves to the potluck, but refrain from demanding blood? Whatever a person's decision is, one has to admire tolerance, both on the part of the person, and when it is displayed by the mosquitoes. Perfect

Luckyfoot, Do you want to tell us about your experience or are you just going to tease us with it?

I simply don't care. I think there is more to it than just the fear of ridicule so unless someone obviously displays some kind of personality disorder on here, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as to their reasons for with holding their pics. However, I probably wouldn't bring it up unless I enjoyed the dust up that would ensue as a result. It's the same principle as that little kid in the backseat of a car on a long trip that keeps holding his finger one inch from his sibling's side so he can technically say he isn't touching anyone and isn't guilty of aggravating.

I find this day to be somewhat disturbing every year. I try not to notice that it is approaching and don't make any special plans. I even avoid the news coverage. Though it was nineteen years of my life, it was a lifetime ago. As I write this, on my fourth child's second birthday, his younger brother, 75 days old, is smiling and cooing at me. At 51, my life is about the future. But my future draws me back. It looks like my 22 year old will become an Army wife, and my fifteen year old, who is looking at colleges, is seriously considering the school that I and his uncle attended. The place where he was born, and the place where one of his ancestors was superintendent. A place just an hour away where I spent more than eight years of my life. A place I rarely visit. On my desk sits a novel that I've been putting off reading for months. It was recently published by one of my cow (junior) year roommates. Much of it is set in Afghanistan. I was honored and chagrined when he informed me that one of the main characters in the book is based on me, and gratified that it is dedicated to our other roommate (also a main character), who lost his life when his helicopter was downed in Iraq. He was the chief medical officer for Centcom at the time. I've decided to attend my 30th reunion next year, the first I will have attended, but I'm apprehensive. There are holes in my heart, left by people of honor, and I'm not sure how they can be filled.

I've seen the photo, and it's pretty **** good. I've seen others too. All good quality shots! I have some pics of evidence (footprint, scat etc,) Yes, that's right, found IN my yard! But as far as posting them here, I'll just say the appropriate people have seen them. That's all that's necessary. Oh, and she or I or anyone else may, right here on this forum, discuss photos, or other evidence they may have in thier possesion without revealing them to the members at large, of the open forum. "It ain't required here!" Just like you don't have to believe what's stated. The people that need to hear about them or see them, will. Thank you.-Knuck

No offense intended towards Sasfooty or anyone else having a habituation experience, but from the perspective of being on the outside looking in, in general it almost reminds me of Stockholm Syndrome. I think the habituators are the bigfoot's pets and they don't know it, the people aren't calling the shots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome Stockholm Syndrome is a term used to describe a real paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.

Cisco, I have no way of knowing where he may have gotten the cougar hat. There are some accounts around of the Sasquatch people trading & exchanging gifts with NA's & that could be a possible answer. They don't tell much if anything about their private ceremonies, but I have heard that occasionally Sasquatches attend some of them. It isn't unrealistic to think that it might have been a gift or that he may have traded for it. As for being made by them...from what I have observed, they have plenty of intelligence to make one themselves. Ashes, fat, & animal brains would all be readily available to them. They certainly have the teeth for chewing the hide if they wanted to. People leave tools lying around, too, & it would be no problem for them to acquire a knife or just about anything else they might want. The cougar face looks a little crooked & kind of wrinkled, not like a taxidermied head.