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Blackdog I remember you from before, not without regret. I disagree with the assertion that I have abused anyone, though I will admit to abstaining from the usual reverence where certain people are concerned. In the one instance where I was judged to have insulted someone, I was guilty of using an excess of florid imagery to suggest that someone had buried their head in the sand -- fairly benign as insults go IMHO. And I note that this sentiment has subsequently been broadcast as a general concern without censure. So shame on me for directing it at a particular person. I agree with your characterization that Saskeptic and RayG are representative of the 'good skeptic' for the most part. I just think they have a little too much faith in the transcendent power of science. Perhaps they should re-read The Structure of Scientific Revolutions to remind themselves of what it takes to overcome a paradigm that has ossified?

Frustrating, isn't it? Reading all of these theoretical arguments going back and forth when you've had that singular experience that reveals the reality of the matter. Sadly, I think that when someone suggests that every one of 5000 reports on a database is fraudulent or mistaken, it's a waste of time for any of us who have had face-to-face encounters to offer them as evidence. They need to see one for themselves.