Put me in a third category you don't describe Saskeptic: Those who are convinced it has been found...many, many times...but who think it just has not been widely acknowledged.
You should have reworded to be more accurate.
" I want to know if these things exist so can you kill one so we can end this debate "
I highly doubt if Sassy 1 ) Would want to kill one and 2 Has any real desire to prove their existence neither.
I may of course be wrong, but I doubt I am.