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Hello PBeaton, My thanks. You made some good points which is what this thread is for. And it could very well be that a set of images as a stand-in for a sketch artist might help. Especially if a session could happen soon after an encounter? Brainstorming the attributes given Sasquatch in JG's database is, in truth, all I personally have to go on as far as the creature is concerned. Using the sheer number of similar attributes as a base for different ways to attack the problem of proof is the point I'm trying to get across when opportunity allows. I mean we've got this enormous pile of information and I'm trying to figure out a way to use it to advantage by first creating discussion threads on the different aspects of the animal. It's been interesting to see what folks have to say. There's more to find out what the information is telling us but so far in my rather inept way I can only pick small items out at a time. The whole picture is simply too large for one person. Someday perhaps we'll look back and see that the answer was in front of us the whole time but we just weren't used to dealing with so much data in one swipe. We'll see. Thanks for the input.

Hello peope booger, That was a touching post. May I join you? I know it's off topic but the mood has a hold of me. All my heartfelt wishes for all those who serve and have served. You are remembered, especially this holiday season, and I wish you safe and out of harm's way until your arrival home. And my deepest thanks and respect for your bravery and commitment. Only the best then for all of you. Thank you, people booger, for bringing it up.

http://webapps8.dnr.state.mn.us/mcv_pdf/articles/1474_That_Old_Gravel_Pit:_Living_Space_for_Wildlife%3F.pdf Page 23, Right hand column. You might also look up some of the mentioned references. Call the man with the truck. It's time to pump the skeptic tank.

Ok, I have not followed this thread simply because of limited time. Although if we're discussing barges of beer, I may have to pay more attention .... Here's a breakout of the distances that 464 Bigfoot encounters in NY-WV-PA since 1960 occurred from roads, from inhabited buildings, and from population centers. I hope this adds something to the discussion on this thread. As with many aspects of this project, I hope to have better metrics, and thus more reliable data in the next version. The quality of the information about encounter locations varies widely. In many reports, particularly older reports, the exact location is given or sufficient information (street address, full name, etc.) is given to identify the encounter location with certainty. Some encounter location can be identified with a high degree of confidence since a description, such as “the municipal garage east of Mapleville,†can be identified through Google Earth satellite imagery, phone number look-up services, or web searches. Other reports identify a terrain feature such as a road, lake, or river, but do not specify exactly where along that terrain feature an encounter occurred. Usually, a reasonable guess is “close enough†to the actual encounter location. Finally, if the reported encounter location is unusually vague (e.g., a farm near Patton, PA), a generic location in that area can be selected since it will provide generally similar characteristics. As a last resort, the center-of-mass of the given county or township can be used. Where a report specified a distance from a road or a building, I used that information. If not, once an encounter location was mapped in Google Earth, the “ruler†tool was used to measure the distance from the nearest road, building, and population center. For my purposes, a “population center†was any cluster of at least ten houses. Obviously, most encounters were near many roads, buildings or neighborhoods. I tried to consistently use the nearest road, building, and population center and where encounters were roughly equidistant from the target, I averaged the distances.

Hello PaddysLad, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bili_ape We should all read this. I epecially liked this about the article: "Behavior toward humans has baffled and intrigued scientists. There is little to no aggression, yet no fear, either. "Gorilla males will always charge when they encounter a hunter, but there were no stories like that" about the Bili apes, according to Ammann. Instead, they would come face-to-face with their human cousins, stare intently in half-recognition, then slide away quietly. Hicks's group later confirmed and somewhat expanded those observations, saying that when they encountered a large group of Bili apes in the deep forests (far from the roads and villages), they not only approached the humans, but also would actually surround them with intent curiosity.[11] Hicks clarifies the issue as follows: the apes within 20 km or so of the roads flee humans almost without exception. The adult males show the greatest fear. Further from the roads, however, the chimpanzees become progressively "naive"." Kind of sounds like you-know-who doesn't it