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The evidence you collect yourself tends to make the most impact, you know the circumstance and can make up your own mind.

For anyone that wants to look into Government cover up and what the Government is capable of look into the accident investigation of TWA Flight 800. There is a fairly recent documentary done by a PHD who became interested in it. He spent years talking to witnesses, getting data and documents through the freedom of information act before producing the video. The why is not known to me, but for some reason the government does not want people to know the 747 was shot down by at least one missile and perhaps two. Even NTSB investigators concede that they saw evidence tags changed, and it one case a NTSB supervisor was seen beating on metal with a hammer to make it match the stated official cause of the accident, an internal explosion in a fuel tank. This is illegal activity and those who did it risked imprisonment. Why would someone do that without pressures from supervisors? The CIA made a cartoon video which was displayed at the hearing which was a complete fabrication of the events and did not match the available data. FBI agents were threatening witnesses to keep quiet when they reported seeing missiles rise up and hit the aircraft before it blew up mid air. Evidence of nitrate residue indicating an explosion was found but ignored by the NTSB investigators. So at least three different government agencies were involved in covering up evidence related to the crash. That would indicate to me high level government officials did not want the true cause of the crash to be known to the public. My point is, if the government is capable of that sort of cover up where US citizens died, any sort of BF cover up is a pretty mundane thing and no big deal to our benevolent government who do not want to have its citizens upset. RR

Would you guys put the Browns, as in the Browns Thermal in such a category? Do you really think Thermalman is on the rails thinking its a cow? I see a bigger problem then, willful ignorance when confronted with evidence. Nothing, and I do mean nothing that was ever argued in the thread of the Browns thermal refuted the fact that a hominoid figure was caught on thermal. Entertain yourselves as you might, but there is our real problem, a pure lack of reality. I fail to see how that kind of ignorant scrutiny of obvious things avails our community anything....there was PLENTY of supporting evidence such as footprints and recordings to substantiate their conclusion!

Just a little suggestion: If you really feel that another member is being deliberately dishonest, or is fabricating facts and evidence, regardless of suspected motive, the best way to handle it is to keep asking questions--in a respectful and level headed manner. Engage them in conversation, without any ridicule plugs. Act "as if" you're really interested and keep pursuing the matter. Usually the perpetrator will run out of creativity and abort the claim, and even if not, his/her bare butt is in the wind for everyone to see; and you have broken no rules. You might even find yourself accumulating a pile of popularity points from observers.