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The education received is worth what exactly? People claiming to have DNA evidence they can't produce? Misinformation telling people that calls to 911 won't get a response? At some point believers have to face reality - all the stories, BFRO reports and databases aren't evidence and they aren't producing results of any kind. If they were evidence they would be testable and repeatable. If they were reliable eyewitness accounts they would be just like your local fishing or birdwatchers report - you could use them to see or catch some sassy. There are no urban communities being harassed by clans of sassy regardless of the education you may receive here - it's not happening. There is no petroleum industry dark age conspiracy, no government cover-ups and no body in a freezer. Does sassy outnumber bears? Is the sassy population in the US above 300,000,000? Is sassy speaking a mix of spanish and bronze age hebrew? Can some "special" folks see them when they are in another dimension while the rest of us can't? Are clans of sassy traveling through the sewers in urban areas near you? Are sassy riding trains, wearing overalls and smoking? What education do you need when answering these questions?

I assume you would include all deliberately false reports as hoaxes? How about reports of recognized wildlife that have been massaged to be sassy by a biased investigator? How do you know which ones are false? That's the crux of this - I've been talking about it since I joined. It's the elephant in the sassy den - you can't use eyewitness accounts as "evidence" if you don't know if they are true or not. You can't even use them as data points in any true sense of the word.

X sees creature through thick brush but doesn't report anything until three years later to a website. Y calls X on phone three years later finds X's account truthful Y places X's account on internet database Should X's account be considered evidence or an eyewitness account too unreliable to base your belief of a fairie, chupacabra, champ, nessie or sassy on?

In the western world, there are thousands of reports of "little people" from Ireland, yet no remains. Should science place great store in tales of leprechauns? Maybe our resident report reader could read hundreds or thousands of those reports and declare the creature scientifically proven, too.

I see we are going to have to do this the hard way. Let's go for a ride....no... sit in the front seat. I'll sit back here. :-) But, I would just suggest to you that you aren't listening to me in your haste to repeat back to me what I've already said, and which I've already told you I agree with. You don't want to see the word, "scientific" come within a country mile of the word "evidence" as used to describe many categories of information cited here. Got it, check....but then, get this too: It still is evidence. It is just not the kind you put any weight on, or even care to dignify with any glimmer or recogntion as such. Go on, you can say it! When you do, you only recognize the process that any reasonable person employs as he/she tries to bring order to the world around them. Really and truly, if we don't have a common agreement on even what words we are using to classify information we want to discuss, there is no hope of progress on any front.

Oh he understands that, he's just unwilling to concede the point. Testimony such as a statement like "If I called the cops and told them a bigfoot was right in front of me eating two of my children 1) I'll never see a cop, because 2) they're too busy laughing. Period." can be entered into evidence in a court of law but really isn't evidence in any sense of the word. It's nonsense in any type of scientific setting just like trying to base existence of a bipedal ape on courtroom rules of evidence. I get that you place a lot of stock in eyewitness sightings but understand it isn't evidence of existence. If you truly believe it is so then you believe in fairies, UFOs, chupacabras, dinosaurs, loch ness monsters, dog men, lizard men and every other cryptid because there are eyewitness sightings of every one mentioned. It's all or nothing if you want to play by these rules and every eyewitness account holds the same value as the veracity can't be determined even by lawyers on the internet.