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"Today's was interesting because, unlike those I was present to experience, the tree involved was heathy and green. It stood about 60 yards away from the cabin and was about 50-60' tall with a diameter of 20-24". It was broken off about two feet above the ground. The wood was fresh and yellow and wet and showed no signs of disease or damage. It's breaking sounded like a gunshot as it snapped and fell. After the tree started to fall, the member present heard another thudding secondary impact we suspect was an ape falling out of the tree. This is exactly what I experienced a few weeks ago. " Even if there are skunk apes, no animal could snap off a two foot diameter tree two feet off the ground. I bet an elephant couldn't do it. t.

100% convinced that something called Bigfoot exists. Not even a tiny smidgen of a doubt. What I'm not convinced about what they are. I'm about 30% convinced that there could also be something else that is pretending to be Bigfoot but isn't a flesh & blood creature.

100%. A clear sighting turns all the other stuff ... track casts, witness testimony, the PGF, etc ... into minor supporting cast. Those things are interesting, expand my understanding, etc but they are not the basis for my certainty. The only way BF can possibly be not real is if none of this is real. If you are all a figment of some sort of delusion, maybe a side effect of some drugs that have me in a coma somewhere. They're as real as you are. That's something you can, and I do, bank on. MIB

In my world bigfoot is not the default answer for everything. If an animal were even capable of this event I would compile a list of those animals that might be in that area and proceed with ruling them out before I even considered something like a "wood ape" as the answer. You prefer to start at bigfoot and then stop looking? To answer you DWA, no it is not Stonewall Jacksons ghost, though in a choice between that and bigfoot it's a toss up as to which one is more likely. What bipto described seeing was large, dark and grayish colored. Are you telling me that the alleged wood ape is the only animal that could fit that description in that area? I find that hard to believe.

Nice Cotter but pushing over a two ft. dia. oak and snapping one at the base are different feats of strength. t.

Engineer calculations or not, no creature on the face of this earth is going to break a two foot diameter oak near the base. Even in America! :-) I think it's wise to move on to the next wood ape feat. t.

If a Sasquatch falls in the forest, and nobody observes it? Did it really happen?

If the apes were climbing 45 feet up in a tree, and bringing a 24" diameter tree down, I am almost positive that you would have found a dead one by now. Do you have a photo of the break?

10-4 SWW........sounds like excellent advice, it's only supposed to hit 94 today, a cool spell in Central Texas this time of year:) I usually hike in North/South ravines this time of year in the heat as the direct sun only hits these directly a few hours a day, and stay cooler than the out of ravine temps. However, hiking the East/West ravines, and with direct sun most of the day, turn into ovens down in the ravines. I guess this is a survival tip hiking and/or lost in hot areas........stay in valleys or ravines that are perpendicular to the arc of the sun, not parallel. Also, these areas are much more likely to retain their water sources year round.