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Those apes do not live in North America, and doubt so much as to nearly guarantee their behavior could not produce the supposed taking-down-trees-from-high-up-in-them wildly speculative tales brought forth in this thread of late.

Stories are of no consequence, it bolsters and diminishes nothing......why? Because stories have no currency in science. Bipto could be wrong about his observation, bipto could be wrong about area x, proponents could be wrong about a cryptid ape existing...,.. This is just a fact of life. But we could be right too, and it's up to us proponents to offer up real evidence. The time is ticking, that's the real enemy, not public opinion, the longer this goes on the less credibility we have. Which many have already written off to date or ever. Many of us have seen things that cannot be explained by science and I suppose this is what drives us on. Anyhow, there is a bigger picture here than what a large ape can or cannot do to a tree.

We have to keep things in perspective...... Bipto's organization understands that a type specimen is the surest way to solve this issue. I don't think he is asking anyone to accept his anecdotal accounts as proof. You can accept them or call them false. Completely your call. Hunting is observing and understanding your prey's movements and habits. Success depends on it. I wish people would stop taking every observation and turning it into a debate over proof of existence. Peace. Out.

Ditto! And I'll add one more thing and that is, keep it to yourself because if the location is leaked you will be accused of someone hoaxing you. Good advice from Midnight Owl and others here for complete and total secrecy. And for the record, killing one would be not only a crime IMO but a sad, sad statement about our "civilization" and what we are doing to this species and others for that matter.