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Why can't folks be glad for the Big Foot? That he/she has a dog. Why do they have to be all jealous?

Antfoot, you do not know me so do not judge me! The astronomer I joked about is a lifelong friend of mine and we joke around like that all of the time. Threatening to punch me in the nose is definitely not appreciated either and what makes you think I would let you do that! You really should be careful about threatening people. The name calling is not appreciated either as I am far from being ignorant! I have actually enjoyed reading many of your posts throughout this forum and found them to be intelligent and thought provoking, but I am going to have to rethink that now. If a little humor between two good friends and not directed at you rattles your cage that easily -- Wow! I don't even know what to say about that! Oh and by way, I know what light wave measurements are. How in the world do you know that I am not an Astronomer in the first place? I hold no animosity towards you at all over this and even wish you the best!

Yet another thread where you make the same posting, DWA?

Do you apply the same assumptive jumps of logic in your professional work? All due respect, but you do not know what manipulated your cord, and you cannot know what was taking your bags of apples without having actually witnessed the activity. I hope you understand what I'm saying, and that I'm not saying it to be mean nor am I ridiculing. I am saying that without seeing the interactions, you are making assumptions.

Antfoot, You've never heard of the Green (as in John...) database?!? And you've been into bigfoot since the seventies?

How common was down's syndrome 15,000 years ago? (How can anyone even know that?) How old did folks usually live that had down's syndrome 15,000 years ago? (How can anyone even know that?) During the mass homo extinctions occurring due to resource competition between differing hominid lines, what chance did a down's syndrome person have of surviving? (again...how can anyone...nevermind) I find it interesting that during a time of day to day survival that the family structure would be strong enough to support someone with downs. Aren't we supposed to believe that something as simple as a broken arm or jaw would lead to the demise of a person back then, yet someone with down's could survive for many years? Thoughts?

I should have said it was compelling evidence to me because I know the stories. Ebu Gogo and orang pendek have a lot of interesting similarities besides just size like both of them supposedly living in caves on volcanoes. I don't find either to especially hard to believe existing on this planet. I still don't know what planet many scientists think they live on where another hominid couldn't exist even thousands of years ago. I don't see the world world defined by the current understanding as in I am not at all surprised that another hominid might have lived on that island thousands of years ago or even today. That is only to be expected by simple common sense. Many seem to think that ancient hominids actually went extinct when the last fossil was found or that their range was defined by the fossil record. I never understood that mindset though it is what the vast majority of people in the field seem to think. Most of them are constrained by many such biases and want to believe they actually understand human evolution so can't be surprised. They want to be considered experts so they act like they know everything. It isn't about a common sense evaluation as much as it about protecting what they think they knew that made them experts. That is human nature. As I said I haven't read enough of it to totally discount it but I was irritated by statement that a down's syndrome was the less strained explanation. It made me lose interest in their opinion to be honest because it sounds like the same irritating "We would have known it" condescending attitude but that is my bias. I don't like arguments from incredulity or ignorance as if another hominid is somehow surprising to them. I can only conclude they think they would have known it so find it incredible. They likely also want attention so are attacking a famous fossil. That is science but that doesn't mean that I don't recognize the likely motivations and shouldn't be extra skeptical of them especially when they come off sounding pompous in my still not completely informed opinion on the matter. Mike Morwood went way out of his way finding evidence to make floresiensis as close to human as possible because he didn't want them be categorized as Australopithecus because he felt that would make it much less valuable like it did to some of the robust australopithene fossils. That may explain why he assumed tool use which I don't think is valid. He stated some pretty lame reason like no art in the caves so there must not have been modern humans there at the time. He did state in his book why he was pushing the "Homo" classification so I don't hold it against him. He seemed exceptionally intelligent to me and honest.

Nobody's forcing bigfoot to do anything, but we see them in places we assume they normally wouldn't be. Ergo, assumption that they keep to the forest of necessity is questionable. Heck, they didn't just crop up in 1959. They've been around for millennia, and for millennia we have competed with them for prime habitat, sometimes violently if certain lore is indicative. There have even been times when we deforested far more of the continent than is now deforested. We haven't done them in yet, and I don't think we're about to.