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Might it be possible that bear populations could have an impact on fisheries due to predation and that was what she was researching? Perhaps it is as simple as that. I guess Renae needs to be the next interviewee on the BFF blog.

Not Rogue, but from your post, I'm inclined to believe you've never ingested hallucinogens. Who's to say whether Native Americans considered their experiences after ingesting a hallucinogen real or subjectively imagined? Personally, I've done so many times, and not merely in my misspent youth. It was rare that I wasn't able to discern fancy from reality, but there were a few times....enough to make me wonder, and become aware of the possibility of dimensions beyond this vale. Consider reading Carlos Castenada, The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge: http://www.amazon.com/Teachings-Don-Juan-Yaqui-Knowledge/dp/034502656X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1410681975&sr=1-1&keywords=carlos+castaneda+The+Teachings+of+Don+Juan%3A+A+Yaqui+Way+of+Knowledge It's been about ten years since I did a shamanistic dose of psylibin, but was a little concerned to sense Death on my left. Still, am kicking ten years later, so he must have been providing instruction to me. Take my posting for what it's worth.

I find her statement illogical not distasteful. She certainly has the right as does anyone to ascribe spiritual belief in anything. She keeps throwing science and evidence in the face of witnesses week after week yet her statement speaks to either. Using something she has done on the show many times to witnesses, show me physical evidence that what you saw or believe was there. Or in my question to her, show me anything that anything can move between "the physical realm and the spiritual realm or back". Science to date has not seen anything from the smallest subatomic particle to the something of astronomical size that can move in or out of this physical universe which the word "realm" implies. Matter can change to energy and energy become matter, but to sum total remains the same. The only exception to that statement is that some think that black holes may not by definition be in this universe even though their gravitational effects are. If that was not her intended message because of the use of the word "realm", then she needs to be more scientific and careful about what she means. Somehow I think physics is not her thing. She does not think lay witnesses have any credibility, so why should anyone give her a pass to hide behind the cloak of science yet make such statements without question.

Dfoots encounter was posted in the old forum. It was one of those encounters where it stayed out of sight and violently shook some trees. I don't remember it much beyond that. The first possible daytime encounter of mine was when my brother stopped the car at a wide spot most of the way down to Louse camp from Blue Creek mountain. It was close enough to Louse Camp that I didn't want to camp at Louse camp. I heard something large like a deer or elk bolt. I ran to the edge of the road and expected to see a deer running but it was dead silent We stood there for several minutes watching but nothing moved. The reason that freaked me out was because I heard where the sound came from and there was nowhere for it go or hide. It went from something violently bolting to dead silent on the side of a very steep hill in probably less than a second. I doubt it took me a second to get to the edge of the road with my camera ready. Smelling it is also kind of unusual. You probably had to be there to appreciate that one. That was something different than anything I had ever experienced. We would have heard it if it were walking away. That was a dash to cover and watching us sort of behavior but we couldn't find it. There was no way I was going down there. I was still freaked out about that a few hours latter and found it difficult to get to sleep. Jim didn't hear it because he was parking the car. I talked him into keeping his shoes on when we went to sleep because I was pretty upset by it. It probably took me an hour to fall asleep but I woke up in middle of the night because a grasshopper mouse bit me. It wasn't a nibble. He attacked my finger trying to kill it. I jumped up screaming and yelling. Jim shined the flashlight on the mouse and I chased it into the brush yelling and stomping after it while Jim was laughing. I got back in my bag and was self absorbed wondering about the risk of rabies. Jim immediately heard some footsteps that were walking into our camp. I guess I was moving about and not paying attention so he told me to knock it off which I could tell by the tone that something was up. Something huge was walking up into our camp after all that noise I made. It was walking very slowly but you could hear rocks grinding as its feet were rolling on the dirt road. It was coming and there was nowhere for it to go but right in our camp. After a few more seconds of that, we dived in the car and sped out of there. It became very threatening when it obviously heard me and should have seen me but still decided to walk up into our camp. It is funny how my plans to take a picture of it at night with my flash camera didn't even cross my mind. It became about self preservation at that point. If we had a high powered rifle I have little doubt we could have killed whatever that was. It became pretty frightening when it just kept coming. It could have definitely gotten shot doing that sort of behavior. Lacking a gun on that trip and not really ready for a hand shake or whatever else it had in mind, we scrammed in what was probably the fastest ever breaking camp and leaving in history.