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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/09/sports/ncaafootball/star-college-quarterback-who-went-missing-died-of-pneumonia.html?_r=0 How is this considered Bigfoot related. Pure BS ! if you go through all those missing people reports there is nothing related to these creatures at all. Most deer kills can be related to predators other then BF but yet you have your few that are. Like I have said ,there have been many times that a lot of researchers should have been dead but yet they have survived to see another day of Big footing. Sure there might be times that they will scare the living Sh** out of you but you will still live that day or night out.

There seems to be a pattern. BF beheads someone. Someone tells on 'em...and on and on...

chelefoot, thanks for informing the posters here how the plus someone's post. Plus 1 to you from me.

I love this little misdirection ploy of yours. Cast me as some raving, ranting trouble maker to deflect from the point at hand. I made exactly one very short post about this... Because of that sentence you surmise I am upset about something. Very well. If it makes you feel better. I'm sure your little ploy will work and many will simply dismiss what I say as angry diatribe. You bring up the premium forum. Suzi posted in the premium section about this same thing. If you bother to go read through that thread, you will see I defended her there. Very strongly. But my sympathy for Suzi is limited, and the reason is, she has been given very good advice from people who know much more about this than anyone else, but she refuses to listen. She will have nothing but that there are evil dogmen lurking in the woods killing humans, even beheading them. I'll point you to my post here where I offer my opinion on badgering members with questions about the same thing, and also trying to portray them as wrong/dishonest/crazy/whatever. http://bigfootforums.com/index.php/topic/32184-the-psychic-sasquatch/?p=873267 All I'm saying here is the opposite is also true. If you keep posting constantly about the same thing, you're defeating your own purpose and merely alienating many who are open minded. Suzi has started I don't know how many threads about this not only here but the premium area. Maybe she just needs to give it a rest for awhile, for her own good. And sorry to have bored you so. If you care to join me in the Tar Pit to discuss this further, I promise the discussion will be much livelier.

The up turned green arrows in the corner of every post is where you "Plus" someone's post. The number beside it indicates how many times other members have "Plussed" your post. If you want to plus a post, just click the green arrow. You are limited in how many plusses you can give per day. The more posts you rack up, the more plusses per day you will be allowed to hand out. Want to know the total number of plusses you have since you joined? Click on your own picture (or where your picture should be if you don't have one) and it will take you to your profile page. In a green box there will be a number that is your "Reputation Points". That is the total plusses you have received from your fellow members. I remember when I was clueless what plusses were

It seems to me that a substantial number of Bigfoot researchers have grown tired of having their integrity questioned time and again for doing nothing more than reporting the complete truth of what they observed and documented. On the flip side, the game players and deceitful charlatans have given the general public valid reasons for not accepting things at face value. I wish I could submit a name for you, but it seems this year has been a bust and most folks have rigged for silent running...

I think a good review of what happened with Melissa Hovey's trail cam photo will pretty much show you how worthless such pictures would be. Most all people cannot tell the difference between a guy in a suit, a gorilla, a raccoon, and the real thing even in a video, this goes much more strongly with photos obviously. The first and only reaction the bigfoot community as a whole is going to have when you/anyone does come out with fantastic video or photography is one of intense ridicule, slander, and just general negativity. The Bigfoot community keeps Bigfoot undiscovered, funny enough. There are probably a few really good trail-cam photos of bigfoot but none of us will ever see them because the people who posses them know it is a big fat lose-lose situation when you release them, we have seen this over and over again throughout the years in a variety of ways.

The link that Crabshack shared above had a nice map of all the rappels needed in going down Ape Canyon and their approximate drop. The map shows max drop at 20 meters (or ~65.6 ft) but the author of the article writes that biggest drop was ~75 ft (still a tough climb for anybody without ropes on a wet rock including BF, but maybe not impossible). I have done canyoneering in Utah, but it looks like baby stuff compared to this extreme version. I have no idea if humans could climb that canyon without ropes. But if humans could, then so can a BF. I forgot to mention that the map shows 18 rappels, but the author and his two companions estimated that they did 20 rappels.