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I had a feeling we bump heads over this post! So by your logic? An animal that we have yet proved to exist to science is doing just great? On what data do you rest your opinion on? Data? There is no real substantiated data available for either of our opinions! As for their well being? well, since bodies of expired Sasquatches are not turning up in the forests, and there is only a small amount of reports describing emaciated ones, I'd say they seem to be getting along just fine. You don't need logic to understand that, common sense works just fine. I sense that you think you have this all figured out, or at least to a large degree. You don't, no one does! Killing one is not based on our "curiosity" I can't speak for everyone, but I think a majority of in this community wants to find out what they really are, and that sure sounds like curiosity to me. Science was born out of man's innate curiosity! But my position is scientifically sound I am assuming that you are referring to the process of taxonomy. Science is continually evolving and is providing new solutions to old problems like harvesting a specimen to prove it's existence. That worked fine in the years past, but just like all other archaic processes there comes a time to retire them and find a better way. Patience is needed regardless of how long it has been. My position is faith based? Well of course it is faith based, and there is nothing wrong at all with that, and I don't remember ever waving my hand around and loudly proclaiming that they are fine. I simply made a statement that you don't agree with. Why the hurry? There is no real need to As for the Gorillas in your bookstore analogy, how do you know that they would be extinct now if not for their protection. That is nothing more than conjecture. Unless you are psychic, but I'm pretty sure you don't believe in that nonsense. Don't send me any of the Wiki or Google links you seem to be so fond of because I will never read them. Look, I realize that you come to these conclusions based on your own logic and reasoning, which is fine, but it still does not alter the fact that none of this can be proclaimed with absolute certainty. Frustrating as that may be, it is the hand that we were dealt and it has placed one hell of a quandary in our laps. No preserve, no rangers patrolling, no government protections and no global fund to fight for their right to exist. They have none of that now but appear to doing fine. How different of a world would we be living in today in today if Bob Gimlin had pulled the trigger roughly 50 years ago? It would be pretty much the same as it stands now, with the exception that there is large bipedal ape in our forests. Nothing earth shattering about that all. I think you'll find that their discovery (while important to you and many others on this forum) It is not a big deal to the average John or Jane Doe out there. After a week or two it's back to business as usual with no residual aftershocks. Instead of a tired old cliche the pro kill stance is a fresh look at a 50 year old decision to rely on a grainy film versus giving scientists what they have been asking for all along HARD EVIDENCE. Fresh Look? People have been trying to harvest one for over now. Fresh Look, hardly. You are just putting forth your own opinion. If they want hard evidence, then they should make an effort to attain it themselves. After all, it is their job but if you want to see it like that, I'll play along! Besides, I will be playing golf on Mars before you or someone manages to kill one, and you will never convince me that they need our protection. Their habitat (whatever that turns out to be) is not going away any time soon, and they already have the right to exist, just not in your field of view. I simply don't see the need nor have the desire to prove their existence! If I get lucky and see one up close some day that, great! If I never see one, no big deal. As I have said in the past, science is number 99 on my list of the 100 most important things in my life! I am pretty much done with this discussion and have no inclination to continue any further. Norse, you seem to be an intelligent, all around good guy and I respect you and your opinions, we just don't see eye to eye on this topic that's all. Best wishes and Good luck with your endeavor, you're going to need it.

That post contained some interesting ideas, but at the risk of going further off-topic, I believe this last point may be a misconception. While not too common, there are many reports of such. Here's an older thread discussing tools. http://bigfootforums.com/index.php/topic/46494-rudimentary-tool-use/?hl=tool A recent report of BF deerhunting with large rock. http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=45296

If I had them around but they got aggressive and I wanted them not to be around anymore, I'd surround the property with lights and cameras.That always seems to keep them away.