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^^^ "That" was the University of Auburn's War Eagle! Meanwhile, back at the OP..... Bigfootery appears to have taken on an entertainment slant with shows such as Finding Bigfoot, Killing Bigfoot, Mountain Monsters, et. al., relegating the discipline to somewhat of a circus environment. Couple that with a raft of new(er) hoaxing incidents and it's no wonder the faithful are in the dolldrums. IMO, the media/cable TV buzz will subside in a few months and at some point a new "discovery" will be made to get people invigorated, once again.

That would be Angels...... Anyhow Crow, don't take this personal but you sound like sour grapes. You've never had anything happen to you to compel you to believe something was out there. But you for 30 years were swayed by the evidence presented to you. Until you woke up one day and had a epiphany that you were being duped. At first you were mad at the subject but could not bring yourself to ostracize the best evidence like the PGF. But now that you have considered the origins of the critter and how it got here? Now even that is being stripped away. I cannot even reconcile your experience in my own mind. Because if I had not experienced a giant snow track way? I would not be here now. Just like how I'am not on a ghost forum or a moth man forum. So now you feel compelled to save all of us from the cruel fate you've experienced, some how some way your gonna make us see the error of our ways. Even if it means ignoring facts that could support the creatures existence. The bottom line? You believed in the creature for thirty years based on ZERO personal experience, and now you have done a 180 while still clinging to the same faith based system. I saw tracks with my own two eyes Crow, that's not a belief system but reality. I have no idea if in my area the thing has gone extinct since then or I'am just not as lucky today as back then. But my stake in this subject has nothing to do with faith......for or against. All I can do is wait for the opportunity to drag the myth kicking and screaming into reality. And believe you me? I am prepared. And if the day never comes? I tried.

Xion, do you have any logging/clear-cut ( 'view making as NorCal Logger would have said' )/ thinning activity in your area? I am not sure how you are gifting as in on the ground, on a stump, etc.. Years ago, I had a gifting location in a clear-cut. Lots of new growth (hiding places ) and lots of stumps. I used an old, silver-wood stump with rotted out heartwood. I would load up the cavity with apples. I would load 6 apples. Braeburn worked really well. The upper surface of the lowest apple was about 8-3/4" down. Retrieving the apples required 'grasping', especially the lowest apple. I peeled a sliver of wood from the stump and poked it into an apple. I would camp 1,000' away, no one got past me, and the apples would be gone in less than 12 hours. The 'stick' would be on top of the stump. Removing the stick required some force. I used a Chatillon scale, 15 lb capacity, #IN-015M. I pushed the stick 2" into the apples. 4-7/8" of the stick was for grasping. Testing different apples on location, the horizontal withdrawal force ranged from 7 lbs to 13 lbs. No teeth marks or beak marks on the stick. A raven is smart enough to do this but the Raven beak would have left marks. This was going too good and I put a camera 14' away from the stump. Nothing. All activity stopped. I am wondering if you have any way to 'test' for reaching and grabbing using available woodland features ( costs less than plastic containers ).

I'll go against the grain by throwing this out there......If the government ( regardless of the number of those in the know--for arguments sake--- isn't covering something up...i.e. "they" know that BF is real)....I think the odds of a flesh and blood heretofore "undiscovered" creature decreases exponentially.....

I can imagine it working for bears, racoons, etc., but BFs are very careful what they step on/in. I guess it would be nice to know what, other than BF, was taking the apples, though.