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So Bobby, the BIG question we should be asking is what the heck are German Orangutan's doing in the Sierra Nevada?? ;-)

Those Orang-utan's are in Germany 1980squatch. We have a total of 35 reports with "speech" within the SSR, with 20 of those coming from WA State. Unfortunately the clicking sound, as common as it is within Sasquatch sighting reports I've read, are classified as another vocalisation and combined with howls etc otherwise I think we would have seen a lot of them too. Great find Mr Cotter and to me that Orang when speaking just sounded like another samurai chatter file.

I just look forward to the day when we can all say, "I told ya so. Neener."

That would be Angels...... Anyhow Crow, don't take this personal but you sound like sour grapes. You've never had anything happen to you to compel you to believe something was out there. But you for 30 years were swayed by the evidence presented to you. Until you woke up one day and had a epiphany that you were being duped. At first you were mad at the subject but could not bring yourself to ostracize the best evidence like the PGF. But now that you have considered the origins of the critter and how it got here? Now even that is being stripped away. I cannot even reconcile your experience in my own mind. Because if I had not experienced a giant snow track way? I would not be here now. Just like how I'am not on a ghost forum or a moth man forum. So now you feel compelled to save all of us from the cruel fate you've experienced, some how some way your gonna make us see the error of our ways. Even if it means ignoring facts that could support the creatures existence. The bottom line? You believed in the creature for thirty years based on ZERO personal experience, and now you have done a 180 while still clinging to the same faith based system. I saw tracks with my own two eyes Crow, that's not a belief system but reality. I have no idea if in my area the thing has gone extinct since then or I'am just not as lucky today as back then. But my stake in this subject has nothing to do with faith......for or against. All I can do is wait for the opportunity to drag the myth kicking and screaming into reality. And believe you me? I am prepared. And if the day never comes? I tried.

I don't believe I have ever been on the ground in that county. Drove through it on 85 a lot of times, and crossed it going up to Talladega County on Hwy 21/231. It's one of the few counties that hasn't generated many BF reports, although the BFRO has received one report from there that has not yet been published. The raw report was received from the BFRO in November of last year. There are also a couple of reports from Elmore County on the GCBRO's data base if you have not already seen those. I appreciate your kind comments. http://gcbro.com/ALelmorecty.html

Thanks all for the recent comments, I appreciate them. Sorry I have not been posting much lately, but have had some family members with serious health problems and medical operations that have kept us concerned and busy. The great news for us; they are on the road to recovery. Here's a recent informal report I could not confirm, - but I will check it out. The evidence should still be there if it's legit. The incident reportedly occurred in south Arkansas near an oxbow lake in a remote, thinly populated, wooded, lowlands area that I know is inhabited by more than a few Bigfoot. (I have been down there a lot during the past three years.)This friend called me on his cell phone from a hunting camp this past Saturday. He said he was alone at the camp and had been doing some work with heavy equipment in the area for weeks. He came back to the cabin Friday evening, was pretty tired, fixed himself a meal and carried it outside to eat by a campfire he had rekindled. It was cold but he had on work clothes to keep him warm until the firewood he had put on the coals started to burn. He ate his meal while sitting in a comfortable camp lounge chair. After eating he said he leaned back in the chair and before he knew it, he was sound asleep and snoring. (He didn't say he was snoring, but after sleeping in a camp a few nights with him and others, I can assure you that if he was asleep, he was snoring, and out like a light.) Anyway, sometime in the early morning (no doubt at about 2 PM, the historical "witching hour" for BF messing with people) he woke up so hot that he was sweating. When he opened his eyes he could not believe that he was seeing the flames from the fire were several feet high and his clothes and the chair's frame were hot. When he jumped up to see why the fire was so big, he saw that a huge section of "rich pine" (the heart section of the trunk and roots of an old, dead pine after the rest of the tree has rotted off) had been placed on the fire while he was asleep. The flames from the fire were so high, he moved around to the other side of the fire to try move the pine off the fire. He then noticed that the huge rich pine section consisted of very long, thick section of the heart of very large tree and the large rich pine roots with fresh wet soil still clinging to the base and the root. He said he could barely move the upper end of the pine by pulling it sideways to get it off the fire. He said he could not budge the base/root end because of its weight and the weight of the wet soil attached. He stated he could see a furrow in the ground at the base/roots, and the furrow ran to a small embankment. With a flashlight he said that he could see where the tree had been overturned and pulled from the ground on the down-slope side of the embankment. He said it would have been impossible for ten men to have overturned and pulled the remains of the old pine tree out of the ground. He saw no tracks of anything, including machinery. According to him, whatever tracks were made while pulling the remains of the tree to the fire would have been obliterated by the root ball being drug over them. The ground around the camp and campfire area is hard packed by vehicles. Had it been possible, I would have driven the two hours to check this out. Coincidentally, I received a call from another friend who lives in town near me today. He knows the area in which this event reportedly occurred. He said he (a “hog doggerâ€) had ‘**** hunting friends who had their dogs chased out of the woods in that same area. Because he had hunted so much in the bottoms, when the hunters ask about what he thought would chase trained dogs out of the wood and put them back in their dog boxed cowed down and shaking, he always tells them, “I don’t have a clueâ€. He HAS more than a clue; he has seen more Boogers than I have, and has had his own dogs chased out of the river and creek bottoms in south AR. The odd part of this report is that in one of the reports I investigated in Talladega County Alabama, a friend of mine over there had a somewhat similar thing that happened to a rich pine stump on his place. I’ll see if I added to this thread.