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It's the only way Norse. Those pesky liberal Habituators won't share so we'll have to bag and tag.

I just read through this thread and it seems most skeptics do not seem to understand how science works. It is not all brilliant discoveries out of thin air. It is mostly people grinding away, teaching, trying to publish and trying to make a living. One can develop a theory and never be able to provide any proof to support the theory. That is where BF science is stuck now. Many spend their whole life on some theory and die knowing they were wrong. Some of the more brilliant discoveries were made by people that were not professional scientists. A professional scientist has to make his living at it. That means university or private industry in most cases. Private industry is rarely into pure science but want practical things they can use to make products. University is the world of publish to get tenure, seeking grants for pure science, and peer acceptance. University or industry, money drives both! I do not see any money in BF for a scientist until someone, and it will probably be an amateur, proves existence. The species protection, study, and all of that might generate grant money from private benefactors. We have already seen some of that with well heeled individuals funding some BF related things. So professional scientists are reluctant to even get involved with BF even if they have some interest. With media exposure, I think there is a new generation of young scientists that might be very interested, I have met some, but like anyone else they have to do what it takes to make a living. So BF might be a weekend hobby they will not discuss with their colleagues. Those that claim scientists would be rushing to BF research if there is anything there, do not understand, scientists like anyone else have to make a living. Like it or not, anyone that ventures in the field is doing science. Most is not good science. I do not see a lot of evidence of keeping field notes, objective thinking, or creative thinking. Too much copying of media figures methods, and that sort of thing. Forums such as this allow exchange of information but I suspect people are holding back. I do. Some active researchers have stopped posting so we really do not know what they are doing. If information, findings, and theories are shared, then BF science will advance. If not it will stay in the doldrums. I am reminded of Thomas Edison and his work to develop the light bulb. He was not a professional scientist, but he was a very successful inventor. He did not invent the light bulb. He made it practical by spending the thousands of hours testing materials for the filament so it would last for more than seconds or minutes. When asked about that process when it was underway, he said I may not know what the filament needs to be, but I can tell you over a 1000 things that do not work. He tried over a thousand materials before he found one that worked. That is what BF researchers need to do. Spend the time in the field trying to find something that works. That may involve trying a 1000 things that do not work. But work or not, we need to share what we try to do, for BF science and knowledge to advance. That is how a lot of science works. Trying things one after another until something works. Even Einstein got it wrong a few times along the way developing his theories.

I think people will just take what they want from this, form their own opinion and most likely not change their opinions about the rest of the bf world. Believers and Knowers will push it aside and skeptics may use it as fuel for their fire. This goes for both the campsite incident and the Wes Germer story.

Call Drew, tell em Iam hunting Leprachauns.......

I'm not, but I do try to look down the road in front of the horse to spot the pitfalls and point them out. Contemplating them, and working ways around them is called foresight.

I read through that nawac monograph. A whole lot of nothing. They should start it by saying 200 pages of stories but no real evidence. Lots of rock pictures if your into geology maybe but no pictures of whatever threw the rocks. If this was real science and real scientists they would have gotten to the bottom of the cameras on=no bigfoot cameras off=bigfoot. Rather than deciding to just leave the cameras off to continue playing military/scientist/monster hunter.

Are Leprechauns human? I wonder.........hmmmmm. Because if I shoot a 12" magical humanoid dressed in green that hides a pot of hold under a rainbow? I might go to jail........hmmmmm. Even though I have proven to the world that Leprechauns are real!!!????? What a crock!!! Well........ I'll just rely on these tiny foot casts and some grainy photos.....people will have to believe me then!! "The so called experts of myths have nothing to gain from a myth becoming reality. The myth dragged kicking and screaming from the shadows until it's under the bright light of science, then the so called experts fade away to obscurity." - Me

Always great stories and no evidence The true believers can't stand the existence of a single thread on this forum that will only settle for hard undeniable proof Never ceases to amaze me what all these people know about an unknown animal

Ab-so-freakin-lutely. THAT can NOT be said enough. After more than a decade of involvement in this *field*, my eyes roll up in the back of my head everytime someone new comes to this (or any forum) and wants proof because they want to "believe" so badly. You're NEVER going to get that at a forum. You'll only get what you're seeking, out there, where the creatures are. It's that simple.