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'A good radio show.....'. With unfortunately several dubious elements attached. Surprising to see so many members of this forum go to such lengths to protect the integrity of someone who has led them up the garden path. Haven't we learned anything from the Dyer and Standing episodes? The Sasquatch Chronicles guys may be slightly more subtle than the proponents mentioned previously but should be eyed with at least a healthy dose of suspicion by all at this moment in time.

I would suggest that Guy and Trogluddite may be missing the point with respect to the silence in the woods. People report the woods going quiet BEFORE their encounter not during or after it. They are walking down a trail or in the woods and curiously note how unusually quiet the woods have become. They may get nervous initially which eventually gives way to fear. Maybe they have an encounter, maybe they don't. The adrenaline kicks in once fear begins. Noticing the silence precedes the onset of fear.

FINGER WALK???? I didn't hear him talking about that, but a friend told me that she had seen them "crab walking". She held up her hands & did a crab walk with her fingers. She said it reminded her of the cartoon cat, & that they can move incredibly fast that way. I can't imagine anyone just dreaming that up since it's so....out there.

Notice in the example video that Skyla provided of the aurora in Arkansas that the aurora did not light up the ground in the foreground at all. Throughout it all of the video the foreground remained black. At the lower latitudes the aurora is so low in the sky that it does not provide a lot of illumination. A full moon would have illuminated that dark ground to some extent. In Northern Canada the aurora is overhead so it produces much more illumination. The other factor is color of light. In one place I stay quite frequently, there is a traffic light some distance away that shines in the bedroom window on the wall at the foot of the bed. The interesting fact is that I can see the green light from the traffic light on the white wall, I can also see the yellow caution light slightly dimmer, but when the light changes to red I can see nothing at all on the wall. So I can lay and watch the traffic light cycles all night long. Looking directly at the lights they seem to have the same level of illumination. So the normally colored lights found in the aurora do not provide the same level of illumination as moonlight would because of how our eyes work responding to color. Moonlight is reflected sunlight off the white surface of the moon and therefore is fairly close to white when the moon is high. The height of the moon in the sky also corresponds to how much illumination. A full moon near the horizon may not provide as much light as a half moon higher in the sky. But as Skyla contends, an aurora along with moon illumination too would certainly put more light onto the ground at night than normal on certain nights when both are present. All of this discussion may just be because of faulty recollection, fabrication or embellishment. We can fix recollection by taking field notes. Anyone that shares their experiences with others by any method should realize that faulty recollection or embellishment may reflect directly on your credibility. Get one fact wrong and it throws everything you claim in question. As I mentioned by their very nature as entertainment, many of those radio shows seem to embellish to make things more entertaining. Could that be the problem here?

Maybe because we don't spend a whole lot of time looking up IN the trees? Depending on the amount of leaf in the tree, they can manage a level of cover while observing OUR activity. It could be a number of us have walked right under one and have never known it.

If there wasn't a case to answer then why the multiple resignations? Why no robust defense? No way did folks gun for these guys just because they got greedy. The community has a whole bunch of folks eager to get to the truth. Uncomfortable or not. This podcast had an agenda from day one. This agenda didn't add up with a lot of folks in the BF scene so it was only natural it would be scrutinized further. Thankfully we don't need skeptics to clean up our mess. We have 'critical thinkers' within the footer fraternity who can scrutinize and assess as well as anyone. Each year brings more lessons to be learned.

Drew - you seem to know a lot about hunting, heck even perhaps at times claimed to be a hunter. Let me ask you this. Are you aware there are plots of land that are open to public hunting? Are you aware that multiple hunters can be present in the same 10 acre (or less) plot of these public hunting lands unknown to each other? Are you also aware there is no law in ANY jurisdiction that restricts the amount of hunters per acre? You are dreaming up some sort of problem with discharging firearms in a 'pulled from the clouds' area. If you have a real problem with this, you best get a-writing your local DNR so they can change the laws. It is not uncommon during deer season to sneak out on public land before dark, set up, only to find when the sun rises some other yahoo has done the same thing 50 yards away. You are beating a non-issue to death. That is where TAB-K comes in - from a strictly hunting standpoint. Moving on. Addressing this "pointing the gun at a 'suspected' woodape prior to ID. That is not what a hunter does. That is what LEO and military do. NAWAC isn't "hunting" these things, they are attempting to acquire a specimen on private property using military tactics. I would think that someone could discern the difference in LEO/military training and what is taught for sportsmen. Regarding the 'illegal' ammo - 00 buck isn't legal for a game animal. Well, how about varmints? Left that one out, eh? How about just having it in your gun on private property? The amount of non-issues being beaten to death on but an iota of the actual goings on is astounding. I think some of the other posters have ID'd the true intent of those types of discussions quite well. (For the record I am indeed a State Certified Hunter's Education Instructor - however, do not take any of my comments as legal advice - call your local DNR warden - that's what they get paid for).