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I visited the Wes Germer sighting location today. I will just report and not pass any judgment. The location is on FR 4205 just above FR 42. FR42 and the Lewis River can be glimpsed through the trees down the fairly steep hillside to the South. FR 4205 is an uphill grade past the location and continues up hill for several miles as it continues East. There are no, repeat no mountains visible from the GPS coordinates. The visible high terrain is the steep canyon walls to the South of the Lewis River. If you continue to the East up FR 4205 for several miles, you will start getting glimpses of the top of Silver Star Mountain to the SE. At the sighting coordinates there is a gentle upslope to the North side of the road that has few trees, it could be called a meadow. The road itself runs 220 degrees to the West down hill, and 040 degrees magnetic up hill to the East. At and immediately East of the sighting coordinates there are several very active game trails that cross 4205 from the meadow like area North of the road. I can see where game would come down from the high country to the North, cross 4205, and go down the steep slope below 4205 to 42 and the river below. Here is the location looking down hill towards the West Here is looking at the location uphill towards the East. This is the Meadow like area just North of 4205 This is a game trail that crosses 4205 at the sighting location Referencing the picture looking West at the location, you can see that the moon would have to be pretty high in the West to be visible above the trees. Even straight down the road trees obscure anything near the horizon.

You can be wrong, and probably are wrong. Replace your Sasquatch in the survival story of ice age and extinction of the mega fauna and European colonization with: A) Grizzly Bear B )Lynx C) Wolverine D) Woodland Caribou E) Wolf F) Native Salmon stocks G) Bison All currently fighting for survival in the lower 48 states. They made it through everything you mentioned and right now, today they need our help. I'm not going to even discuss the vast amount of species that have already gone extinct within the last thousand years, because of humans. You don't want to shoot one, I can totally understand that. But you can still be a pro kill proponent...........it's the logical choice. US law and a multitude of agencies are working very hard to ensure the species I've listed above do not go extinct...........absolutely nothing is left to chance. Your emotional knee jerk reaction to collecting a type specimen is illogical and unwarranted. Sorry bud.

Oh man, you go from a healthy gene pool when you kill one to extinction if I don't???? C'mon ,,,,,,,,,They get through the iceage, elimination of the megafauna, and heavy de-forestation, across this country plus a million + years of evolution before that and they are tedering on extinction if I want to observe first and collect samples instead of shooting one? Sorry, I can't be wrong.

I don't believe this is correct current. In the last C2C segment with David P he indicated bigfoot had been his initial assumption but at this point he does not believe bigfoot was involved in most of the disappearances. You might want to listen to that so when you cite David, your citations are up to date with his current thinking rather than fixating on something he's discarded because as the data set expanded, the presumed fit wasn't there. In that C2C segment George kept saying people appeared to be being "harvested" .. his word. The way he said it brings to mind Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Men: The Surviving Elites of the Cosmic Ware and Their Hidden Agenda by JP Farrell. That particular interview hit real close to home on some points and I lost some sleep over it. Lot of implications that stem from any of our assumptions that have to be examined. A good number of the accounts in the 4 volumes simply cannot be reasonably attributed to a F&B "dumb monkey." Which pieces of the assumption do we discard, or at least question/examine for validity, and in what order? MIB

Your ideas of saving them are inflated. Just as we don't know they are flourishing , we don't know they are in danger. "They" wouldn't be the only reason to preserve habitat either. One could assume you'd be doing them as much good to save all the other fauna and flora that they must feed on. They would simply be another reason for conservationists to do what they already do. Suppose they eat only deer, bear , elk , moose, fish, turkeys , etc etc etc, What would you be willing to give up so they can live?

Really nice post GS. Much to admire in your words but I guess we'll never see eye to eye on this one. Like it or not we pass judgment often. On this forum we are especially good at rooting out what doesn't add up. That may be unpalatable to you but thankfully it's how we roll. On this subject I am only interested in the facts. If folks want to make themselves feel better by insinuating that there is some sinister government conspiracy behind Germer's downfall then knock yourself out. I would however suggest that peddling this wild theory as if it's a truth will be uncomfortable for many.