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Unfortunately, I doubt most members of this community can really investigate to the level necessary to prove a hoax. Some folks are fanatical hoax busters, and seem more into that than actually finding bigfoot or proof of. It's a full time job just doing one or the other. Ultimately proving a hoax is just a matter of what seems obvious to the observer of all the facts, and a lot of times, there just isn't enough of those and a flurry of raging opinions that don't amount to a fact. To each his own here and what they want to expend their time and energy on.

Gumshoeye, while you're willing to chat please explain the contradictions of your comments: "I did not see the thing when I snapped the photo" "It was standing upright looking at me looking at it." "Prove it to me" attitude? Nope. The proof is right there in front of everyone's face- what we're dealing with here is acceptance or denial. The more I think about it Gumshoeye the more it equates a hoax- deliberately telling a phony story presented as being true.

The only part that isn't an opinion is highlighted in red. Who, exactly, are you calling "ignant"? Unfortunately, one of my numerous flaws is that I really don't give a flying crap about the "scientific community" or their opinions. I'll never understand why so many folks are so hell-bent on "science" validating what they already claim to know or believe.

I tend to agree with you, SY, but you're answering a different question than the one I asked. I didn't question whether we are able to expose or prove a hoax, but rather, should we point out questionable claims or evidence contrary to those claims, and then seek out why the conflicts exist?

Yuchi1, thanks so much for being such a tireless advocate for our hairy cousins. Your clarity on this issue is very comforting to me, and I would guess to many others, as well.

IMO, anyone in the business of killing one (regardless of professed rationalizations) is doing so for these reasons and these reasons only: Fortune/Fame and/or Ego. Also, the overwhelming majority of such individuals have never had a FTF encounter, as the overwhelming majority of those (myself included) who've actually had one, quickly exited the killing business, and for multiple reasons other than self-preservation. IMO, virgin ignorance, fueled by the egomaniacal quest for fortune and fame are a toxic situation.

I reached a point where the more I experienced, the more questions I had trying to fully digest what just happened out there. You reason out things in your head as to what they are and what they are not, then something happens way out of the box and blows your theory right out of the water! I mean personal experiences in remote places-just you and woods! Experiences that are insulated from the public jokers and deceitful charlatans. I don't claim to be an expert-never will-only a witness that knows much more is going on out there than just some dumb monkey running around! Call it opinion if you want to, I call it personal experiences...

Great question, Bonehead, and the answer is, no. You don't arrive at 'truth' by repressing and repelling. Good things come from the joyous expression of the heart, which, for many here, means the indulging of a great and powerful interest in the enduring mystery that is Sasquatch. You don't get to the heart of mystery through criticism, censure, and control. We all know that being a control freak is not healthy, and that's all that the campaign against hoaxing is: a desperate attempt to control. Leave people be. They're not hurting anyone. They only hurt our pride, and pride is not our most precious resource. Almost anything else is more deserving of protection than pride. Always focus on what you want, not on what you don't want. What you want then flourishes, and everything else dies away.

Don't take no notice. Up until this time last year, crow said that they became extinct not long after 1967.

We have one person outright lying about bigfoot stories, another person touting an April Fool's joke as being compelling, and you still want to preach about real-world skills and knowledge, huh?

Truth is beauty, and a lie (hoax) is ugliness. Should we not strive tirelessly to create and nurture an environment where truth can freely flourish by exposing and then removing the malignancies that are built from the lies of hoaxers?

Thanks Dave, As far as species ID by tooth, that's what they say. That question about carnivore/omnivore made me laugh. :-) The animal was eating meat off those bones. Seriously though it doesn't tell you what else it might eat. Bears are in the order Carnivora but are omnivorous. Carnivores use their canine teeth to catch and hold prey animals. But remember, if bigfoot exists, it wouldn't need this capability, it has hands. Look here for a good visual comparison between carnivore and primates, as well as other orders of animals. http://www.skullsunlimited.com/record_class.php?id=1 The various orders are listed alphabetically. Very good visual information for the tooth layout of the various types of animals.

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