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Railroad yards are essentially deserted compared to what used to go on about 40 yrs ago. There are no more positions called "Railroad Detectives" and they are not under surveillance as before by humans. There are cameras here and there but mostly it's the crew that might see something. In that case, they call 911 and let the local police handle it. The container cars have lots of "riding room" on them. They are lifted by a crane and come in several different sizes and between the cars there could be as much as ten feet. This is not a stretch by any means and there is a little known recording of a "sighting" as they are coming into Blair, Nebraska and a BNSF crewmember sees one on the "right of way" which means beside the track. He says "there is a bigfoot on the right of way" or something very similar to that. So urban bigfoot to me, no problem........they are opportunists in every sense of the word.

Plussed for that one above. I must admit I haven't followed NAWAC that much but that was only because of what I read about them initially I never agreed with (tactically) in the first place. I think NAWAC grossly, grossly underestimate what is actually going on with these things. Unfortunately, I can't tell you what is going on with these things but they're clearly not some dumb animal and when you're in their domain, they rule the roost, clearly. Classic case of humans thinking that we are the greatest thing since sliced bread, when we are not. Yes these things can be shot though, no doubt, they're flesh and blood animals, but I think you have to outwit them mentally if you're to achieve your objective. You have to use your brain and out think them, using things like their curiosity to do so, and most probably their belly. And even then, I'm convinced they're much, much smarter than what we give them credit for and you'd need all the luck in the world. Above all of that though, you need to put I ten time, real time and lot of it. Putting in the time will allow you to ***** the situation, assessing the situation will allow you to gain an element of trust maybe and being able to find a pattern or trend, and gaining trust and finding a pattern or trend would allow you to achieve your objective. That's morally wrong IMO of course I know, but it's the only way that I believe this thing can be nailed.

IMO, the NAWAC operation is a prime example of how not to approach the endeavour. First, most all successful military (and, scientific) operations rely upon good intelligence to understand the target and thus learn the habits, actions and reactions so that predictability is a calculus that can be confidently relied upon. Knowledge of gorilla behavior, culture, etc. was gained by close observations over a long period of time by the likes of Dian Fossey, etc.. IIRC, NAWAC is engaged in very little of such activity rather and/or have not derived much intelligence on the subject hence, a shoot first, ask questions later M.O. now appears to be in effect. IMO, this projects a sense of frustration/desperation that things may be reaching a critical mass especially as the PR campaign appears to be wearing thin with lots of announcements but little in the way tangible results. With that being said, it's no surprise failure has been the result as they (NAWAC) apparently haven't derived much from the previous failures of other such organizations/groups engaged in similar M.O.'s. IMO, NAWAC would have been better served to have kept their mouths shut until tangible, verifiable forensic evidence was attained. Instead, they (IMO) appear to a group of people with more of a collection of egos and personalities rather than serious scientific practioners.

Well I went to Yacolt mountain, opps, no I didn't, that is 11 miles away from where I went today. Was interested in what was on the back side so I drove way up past the Wes and Woody sighting location on FR 4205. . One hell of a climb but my truck did all the work. I was particularly interested in finding active game trails and seeing how much running water was up there. Found a few faint game trails, scared up a couple of deer, and did note this time of year there is plenty of running water in small creeks. But I suspect by mid summer all the small creeks will be dried up this year. If BF is up there, it will force them down to the Lewis River below for water. The terrain is very steep, heavily covered with timber and smaller vegetation covering between trees. It would take anyone hours to go a mile as there are no real trails. I followed what looked like an old jeep road that was above the reported sighting location that was overgrown, got excited when I started seeing a bunch of snap offs, but then started seeing small saplings had been bent over in both directions along the old track. Examination of the bent over small saplings revealed something mechanical had done it scraping bark off the saplings. Either a jeep or an ATV most likely. The most active and busy game trails are right in a 500 yard section of road at the reported sighting location. Since that mountain is not named, perhaps to avoid confusion with Yacolt Mountain, which is 11 miles away, maybe we should name it Weswood Mountain? Finally one of their narrations of the event indicated a lot of recent clear cutting in the area. Not true. I had to go for miles before I found anything that had been logged in a very long time. And in that area the trees were 15 to 20 feet high. Now I really have no idea what they are talking about since there is no sign of recent clear cutting anywhere near the GPS coordinates. I have to say now that if someone wants a story that holds up to examination, visit the location, know the geography, pay attention to moon phases and positions, write it down, and refer to your script when telling the story.

The only part that isn't an opinion is highlighted in red. Who, exactly, are you calling "ignant"? Unfortunately, one of my numerous flaws is that I really don't give a flying crap about the "scientific community" or their opinions. I'll never understand why so many folks are so hell-bent on "science" validating what they already claim to know or believe.

Crow has a point even if we dont like to admit it. This subject is a joke to the scientific community.......one giant hoax. No photo, no plaster track, no eye witness account is going to change that......we need proof. If your not a pro kill advocate? you better figure out a better hair trap or start excavating caves or something.

I'm sure it will make the Squatch world nightly news........are you for real?

they'd still be elusive.... they will not have gotten the memo....nothing would really change from their perspective...