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MOD STATEMENT I just read through about 20 posts that were off topic. Rather than deleting them and spending the next 2 hours of my Sunday Morning sending you guys reasons why, and warnings, and documenting all of those posts, I am going to restore them so you can read back through them and KNOW where NOT to head with thread in the future. I don't mind when threads evolve into other meaningful discussions. However, constantly going back to the old worn out skeptic versus proponent argument is boring and frankly embarrassing to the forum. KEEP IT ON TOPIC. And Randy,, you said this: Calling anyone a hoaxer should be treated as a serious thing here and yet it is tolerated. I wonder loud and clear why? It IS a SERIOUS thing. However, Not once did anyone hit the report button. We cannot see every post the minute they are posted. If someone is called a hoaxer, they better be ready to back it up or they will be personally escorted to the door. But. how am i to know if you guys don't REPORT it. I do have a job, a life, and a few other things on my plate. I would love nothing more but to sit here and read every post the minute it is posted, but that is not reality. We depend on you guys to help us know when this stuff is happening. So if you see it, report it. If you don't report it, don't complain when nothing is done about it!

This whole mess with the camp site just does not scream Bigfoot to me. There are things there that just do not fit with me well and that is with the creatures. Like the tree damage, how would have he known about the tree formations being new. Unless he was there before and seen that there was never no tree formation in the first place. By him saying that the tree formations are new, he is stating is own interpretation of the seen. Those tree formations just do not look like they were done by Bigfoot. I am sorry but those formations are weather related and not Bigfoot. But again, as I have said "this is only my opinion" I really do not believe that Bigfoot had anything to do with this camp site.

Gumshoeye, your steadfast refusal to rush to judgment is truly awe-inspiring to me. I admire it more than I can say. Equally remarkable is your ability to see what's important and what's not, and to explain patiently, over and over, the difference between the two. And Diana, you're a wonderful addition to the forum. I have huge admiration for you, as well. Rock on!

In my assessment, as I've said already, the torn up campsite is a hoax and the claims of government coverup is a lie. No death, no bodies. That being the case, who benefits is the whole bigfoot community minus the hoaxers. We have "policed" our own identifying frauds and hoaxers in our midst for what they are. It may be uncomfortable for people who invested their egos in this torn up campsite and Sasquatch Chronicles being legit ... "too bad." I would say that to myself as well, no double standards. The sooner you find out you were wrong about something and can set about realigning yourself, regardless of discomfort, the better. I don't think this should affect anyone who has a legitimate story to tell. You seem kind of new to the BF community. Nobody gets a pass, never have. Nobody gets their story or evidence accepted without someone somewhere scrutinizing it. Look at the PGF, look at the Bossburg tracks, look at habituation in general ... you name it. ANYONE coming forward with a story should have already expected to be interrogated and worse. I can't speak for anyone else. This doesn't change anything for me. All it does is emphasize the need to have your ducks in a row before saying anything to ANYONE. MIB

What really bothers me and this forum seems to put up with it, is Crow saying in no certain terms that people who find footprints in very out of the way places are hoaxers or fakers. He is not content to think there might be some like Freeman who did it, but everyone who finds one is somehow involved in the same thing. That includes me, Meldrum, Krantz, Binderngel, and anyone else that has found a footprint. Everyone is wrong and Crow and his fellow skeptic squawkers are right. Let me say this loud and clear, I have never encountered such sheer egotism that can proclaim people with and without PHDs are not only wrong but they are fakers and hoaxers. I have posted several footprint pictures on this forum that I have found. I have to defend each and every one. Yet these 'skeptics' are not required to produce any evidence to support their contention that what I have submitted is a hoax or fake. They can just say it and walk away with impunity. That is tolerated by the administrators and I have nearly been thrown off here for challenging what I consider libelous statements by skeptics. If my claims require supporting evidence then some skeptics claims about my evidence should too. If they cannot produce evidence to support their claim of hoax then they should be censured just as I am when I cannot produce evidence to support my claims.

I believe I got it all figured out. 99% of video's, TV, outrageous stories are all bovine feces. Jump on the band wagon, lets see if I can make some serious cash $$$ out of this. I just wonder what a real Bigfoot looks like? I've seen so many different ones on youtube. I've never seen Bigfoot so I am somewhat skeptical. Personally seeing is knowing and knowing is believing.

And Melba was asked by one of the examining labs if she had discovered a "new species" because they said they had never seen anything like it.