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So the original logic flaw is compounded with a second now. 1st logic flaw: They can only exist in the PNW. 2nd logic flaw: They are only dumb animals. The entire approach to this topic is prejudicial.

WRT to museums, I can tell you from personal experience that things go missing. I volunteer as photo/media archivist and graphics specialist at the Montana Military Museum at Fort William Henry Harrison a couple of miles west of Helena. We are a very small institution with a paid director and all else done by volunteers, most of us Vietnam veterans or spouses/relatives of veterans. I began my tenure there in mid 2011, and in early 2012 our long time curator passed away taking with him mountains of institutional knowledge. Most of our collection not on display is housed in two small buildings and some Connex storage units. We regularly find things we had no clue were there and sometimes cannot find things we know are there somewhere. We are slowly digitizing our records but it is a slow process and at 64, I’m the youngest person on board and I have chronic health challenges, our eldest docent is a WWII veteran who just passed 93. The museum has been in existence roughly 25 years. We likely have a higher percentage of our collection on display than most museums as our display area is larger than our collections department. Most museums are like ice bergs with the display items the part above water. With most if not all major U.S. museums having been in existence since the 19th century it is not difficult to believe that things slip through the cracks with no conspiracy required. Money wouldn’t make things happen faster unless warm bodies accompanied it, we’re a pretty dedicated bunch but can only do so much. WRT to the Glacial Lake Missoula Floods and with no disrespect to SWWASASQUATCHPROJECT as they are a special interest of mine, they were more recent than, but every bit as devastating, as he relates. At its maximum, the lake backed up by a glacier blocking the Clark Fork River in present day northern Idaho contained some 500 cubic MILES of water. When the water level approached the top of the glacier dam, estimated at 2000 feet high, pressure forced water into cracks in the ice according to the latest research. The ice dam failed catastrophically and that huge amount of water emptied across Idaho and eastern Washington and down into northwest Oregon over a period of 2 to 3 days. The flow was greater than that of all the current rivers in the world combined. Some of those stones in the Willamette Valley originated in the Canadian Shield, were carried to Montana in glaciers which calved into Lake Missoula, thence carried by the floods to their final resting spots. Current estimates are that this process repeated at least 36 times during the last ice age, with the latter releases diminished as the glaciers shrank. The time period was likely from about 12k to 9k years BP, and they may have repeated as often as every 30 or 40 years. Anyone who has driven through eastern Washington has seen the evidence of this deluge in the plains and promontories of lava stripped bare of soil. Anyone interested in learning more about this subject would enjoy “Glacial Lake Missoula and Its Humongous Floods†by Geologist David Alt, available here: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_26?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=glacial+lake+missoula+and+its+humongous+floods&sprefix=glacial+lake+missoula+and+its+humongous+floods%2Cdigital-text%2C215

Have thought the same thoughts so many times over the last 6 months or so......... That museum stash is probably all we really need.

There are several reports of them diving into a pond, lake, etc., but then not surfacing in any reasonable amount of time. IMO they do have escape routes under water probably dug into the banks but under the water. Also, reports of small dugouts in the banks of rivers have been noticed and if I were a hairy person I would definitely use such a place to escape. How many of us dare to go into a place like that, some, but not many, I suspect. Beavers do it all the time, they build their dams, stay dry and do quite well. It's not rocket science that hairy guys have figured this out either.

I wonder if these science busting skeptics ruining bigfoot research are the very same responsible from blocking the truth about the governments work with extraterrestrial It might also be possible that these very same skeptics are the nogoodniiks clouding the reality of ghosts and other spectral phenomenon from the unknowing public.

I think it is more untenable to postulate that an adaptable, intelligent, and stealthy primate would confine itself to just one area. The natural tendency of a species is to populate any habitat that can support it. This is true of cougars, coyotes, deer. Why would it not be true for bigfoot?

WRT stopping power of the .45 Long Colt cartridge, there are some variables that must be taken into account. The .45 Colt was introduced in 1872 and in 1873 was adopted as the official U.S. Army handgun round together with the Colt Single Action Army revolver. This was a black powder cartridge designed for use in weapons with much milder steel than is available today. The ballistics from a hand gun were roughly 850 to 900 feet per second with a 230 to 250 grain lead bullet, comparable to the .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) round originally designed for the venerable Colt 1911 pistol. A good man stopper but, especially with the soft lead bullets used at the time, limited in penetration on larger animals. Even when smokeless powders became standard around the turn of the last century, factory loads continued to be loaded so as not to exceed the pressures generated by black powder loads, as they are to this day. There are two particular reasons for this. First, the cartridge cases for the round were much weaker than those designed for more modern handgun rounds, using what is known as a "balloon head" design. In this type of case, the case head is relatively thin with the primer pocket extending beyond the head into the case interior leading to the case head separating from the case body if too heavy a powder load is used, with dangerous results. Even though modern .45 cases are made with a thick case head equivalent to other modern cases, there are still many older Colt revolvers and reproductions in use that aren't designed for "magnum" pressure loads. Even currently manufactured versions still have thin cylinder walls that preclude the use of overly robust loads. It is quite possible to safely fire .45 Long Colt rounds loaded to .44 Magnum like ballistics, but only in revolvers such as the Ruger Blackhawk or Freedom Arms which are much more heavily built. The chambering of rifles for the .45 Long Colt cartridge is a fairly modern development driven by such things as Cowboy Action Shooting competition. While it was common for early lever rifles such as the 1873 Winchester to be chambered in pistol calibers so that a person could use the same round in long gun and sidearm, those were rounds such as the .44-40. Other than some kind of custom conversion (unlikely to be owned or carried by the miners) there would not have been a rifle chambered for the .45 LC at the time of the Ape Canyon incident.