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so then why did pacnw indians carve masks that were unmistakably ape like or more archaic prior to European contact? i' d say your underthinking it.

You think they actually get in the water? Just getting wet a few times during the hot part of the day would keep them a lot cooler. There seem to be a lot of BF sightings around high mountain lakes in the summer. Maybe that is what is going on there. The Hopsquatch Town hall last sunday a witness camping along the shore of a lake with a boat described what he thought was a human going boat to boat looking into the boats late at night. He stood and quietly watched this and when the subject got within about 15 feet they locked eyes. It was a smaller BF, probably teen, that apparently scored sometimes finding food or whatever left in boats. It went into a crouch, tried to look like a stump, then decided to run. He described the run in a very interesting way, It went down on all 4s, would scoop its front hands into the sand along the beach with every stroke, and fling the sand backwards. That helped it propel itself, and the sand would prevent someone from following it without getting a face full of sand. The guy chased it but he said it was twice as fast as he could run. That description was different enough that it really sounded authentic to me.

Yes, you are seeing that common thread in the evidence. It just might be golden.

Branco- can you add some actual references to your stories? What court house? Which "deep south county"? What "high level official"? What "field warden"? What "many older residents"? Surely these people and places have names? Having been in the military for several years I know there is no way in hell that people wouldn't blab all about it. Even with having to sign nondisclosure/clearances people will still talk. The idea that our government can keep great secrets with so many people just doesn't work. Even the special ops like the Seal Teams can't seem to keep their mouths shut.

You are right. There is no real mystery. Mankind has known about these animals for tens of thousands of years.They are a primitive member of the genus Homo. They, like Homo Sapiens, have diversity in their appearances, body shapes & sizes, hair types, eye colors, vocalizations, traits and habits. Forensic Hair experts have long classified human hair sample by three basic types:Caucasoid (European), Mongoloid (Asian) and Negroid (African). There are at least three "types" of Bigfoot. Each "type" has hair which is nearly identical to one of those basic human hair classifications. When earlier settlers actually killed some of these creatures to protect their homes and livestock, the settlers had no access to scientists nor had any interest in the "science" of Bigfoot. (The body of a young Bigfoot was for many years displayed in the court house of a very rural, deep-south county. It was only removed in modern times by a high level official in the state's fish and wildlife agency who went there, along with a field warden, to testify in a trial. That fact was confirmed by many older residents - some were previous county officials and law enforcement officers.) Generally science nor federal and state wildlife agencies have wanted any part of the Bigfoot situation during the years. To them the declaration that the animals exist would be an uncontrollable bomb. And they are right for many reasons. But now, because of the human DNA carried by the animals, a Presidential Memo issued by Mr. Obama, and directed at every division of of federal government and every science lab in the country that receives, directly or indirectly, funds from the federal government, is prohibited from scientific examinations or research on "humans" without their written permission. (The law provides that if a scientist(s) know that such actions have occurred, and does not report it to the feds, they will be punished.) The DOI and the DOA - with help from any branch of the military they need at any time - are doing all they can to provide huge areas which are designed to try to make accidental encounters between average folks and the animals less likely. (Based on the huge increase in the number of sighting reports during the last few years, the worth of those projects are questionable.) Bottom line: The tens of thousands of folks that know about these animals, and don't want them "shot and put on the slab" should be somewhat content. Those that don't know and don't care are probably better off. Those that are certain in their own minds they don't exist but want to convince those that know that they are just fooling themselves are simply SOL and will have to be content banging the keyboard.

First you complain that science isn't paying attention, but now when it comes down to presenting your evidence you want to complain that science is just going to dash everything and you can't rely on them. Excuses, excuses, more excuses. That's called denial, DWA, and the excuses are your way of dealing with it. You keep telling skeptics to go read the evidence, go out in the woods, be proactive. Well I'm telling you to go to science, take your own advise, be proactive. If your evidence is solid then go out and take it to science- quit complaining already.

Maybe, some of these (BF/UHS) are no-kill (of homo sapiens) and some are pro-kill (of homo sapiens)? IMO, there are many types of "monsters" in the Kiamichi's, meth-monsters, pot-monsters, whisky-monsters.....