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Why dont you get busy? We have skeptical members in Project Grendel that contribute greatly.......... Besides its fun and gets you off the couch and into the woods with friends.

Elk don't lay down next to the road? But bigfoot, the most elusive creature in the world, does lay down by the road? Do elk woller in the mud for various reasons? Yes If mud is next to the road then why wouldn't he lay in it? Is "bedding down" the same as laying in the mud?

well stated!!

Hello DWA, I absolutely disagree with this. Read the IPCC's AR5 in it's entirety, go onto the NASA website, checkout the oceanographers, the geologists, the volcanologists, the chemists, the astrophysicists, the medical researchers, the quantum physicists, the glaciologists, the geophysicists, and all the rest and I think you'll find that the standards are excellent and the bars are set pretty darned high across the board. Your pet Sasquatch peeve involving lazy scientists simply doesn't stand up. There are plenty of qualified and over qualified people in the woods and deep forests. If anything their activities and presence out there for the last 50 years is a feather in the caps of the so called "denialists". Could be time for you to consider that there is a possibility the only answer if the creature exists is that the knowledge is being kept from you. I find it nearly impossible to imagine that none of the thousands and tens of thousands of scientists, professors, interns and students have nothing remarkable to share with the world. Focusing on a pile of anecdotal evidence is fine but the huge pile of people who study the forests and other habitats is much, much larger so I think a certain amount of reasonableness might be in order?

The big loosers will be the amateur researchers. Traditionally trained scientists will take over the field. This forum will probably go away or change to the point it will no longer exist. I suspect a good chunk of the posters here are more into the whole bigfoot game and will move on to ufos, ghosts, or other paranormal phenomenon. Bill munns kitkakaze and other pgf guys will need to look for a new hobby/gig no one will care about the pgf outside of it being the first video capture. I think skeptics will be shocked and rubbing their heads why they were so wrong but ultimately happy and excited. If i found out santa claus was real i wouldn't be upset it would be a good thing.

I would high five everyone of you and buy the first 3 rounds at the Bluff Creek Bar and Grill..... I would tell you you all have been so right and I can't believe I was so hard headed. Now get busy.......

The rifle used that day was chambered in .25-06 according to Justin. He and the driver have both stated that the creature was about 80 yards away. An experienced shooter (and observer) should have no problem observing the impact of the bullet. I've seen it many times myself in deer, bear, coyotes, and even groundhogs, as well as the "rippling flesh" effect the driver describes. There are many weird things about the story of that day, but to me, the description of the shot itself doesn't seem odd. YMMV.

I can vouch for them being pack hunters. I heard one moving around down in a creek bed and decided to press my luck and go down into the draw and see if I could flush it so I could get a look at it. Was difficult going for me and I was having to crawl over and under down logs so I could not move very fast. I would move forward a few feet and hear some thuds as it retreated keeping just out of my sight. Apparently it had enough of the game or I had it cornered so it growled at me. I started backing away. Then behind me was a tremendous snap where a large limb or sapling had been broken. I realized that I was either being led into a trap or the one behind me wanted me to know it was there so I would leave the one I was closing on alone. I had no idea there was more than one and could have easily backed right into it and never known what hit me. I like to tell this story now and then and hope pro kill people read and take warning. Would be a good idea to have one guy cover your back if you are closing in on one to take a shot. It might not be alone. While that seems like very sentient behavior, wolves will do much the same working in packs circling behind prey while one shows itself in front of the prey.