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The only groups that are concerned about return on investment are those that are already making money from BF. If BF is proven most of their reasons for being around are gone. "Someone else found Bigfoot" is not likely to be a TV series. Attend a Bigfoot expedition lately or a bigfoot conference? It likely cost you several hundred dollars for the expedition and a lot of money to attend the conference. My last conference cost me about $400 if you include the hotel and admission fee. If you can go see one in a zoo, who would pay that kind of money not to see one in the wild. I suspect the reason for most of the secrecy is that groups or individuals want to be the one that proved the existence of the creature. Secret research areas, methods, techniques all follow. Talk shows, documentaries, book deals, conference gigs, all would be the fallout for the one that proved existence. That is where the money is. The person that brought out the Mountain Gorilla body did not get rich from the act. Nor will the person that delivers a BF body to a lab from that act. It will be from all that which follows.

You know, whenever I was giving anti-terrorism presentations to corporations, I was always looking over the audience for anyone who might use the info the wrong way. You have a valid question, assuming we've got any hoaxers on the forum and that any of them are paying any attention. I think any fixes they might conceive based on what we've discussed would be limited by available funds. It's may be simple to make two joints look like they are proportionally farther apart than normal for a human, but more difficult to make them both articulate realistically. The kinds of special effects necessary are probably fairly expensive. The guy wearing any suit would also have to be familiar enough in it and comfortable and skilled enough to move easily and fluidly. It would certainly be easier to wear a suit than to behave realistically in it. I guess they could play with camera angles, etc. to mask any imperfections, but I consider any convenient filming angles to be automatically suspect anyway. Bottom line for me is that if there is anything at all unnatural or unnaturally convenient, it is likely a hoax. I've considered the Freeman film a hoax ever since I first saw it even though it is widely accepted by others. The subject is a lot shaggier than I would expect and just doesn't seem comfortable in its environment.

"Some people will just believe *anything* *anyone* tells them." DWA Got nothing to do with belief. This comes from the evidence. There are reports with this type of behaviour. Not my fault, I am just going by what is in those reports you love so much. And, btw, that level of irony in your statement had to be intentional.

WSA - Wrong, wrong, wrong! I won't speak for everyone but I don't have any philosophical problem with the possibility that 8,10,12 or even 20' giant bipedal apes are running around. The natural world has many simple yet elegant solutions to problems involving blood distribution that allow for such possibilities. My problem with stories from groups like NAWAC is that I can't actually study the solution like I can with a giraffe, whale or even extinct sauropod. People can tell me about a giraffe, whale and even sauropods but I don't have to wait on their stories. I can see these animals in the wild, in captivity, in museums and textbooks. We can study their behaviors, capture it on video to share with others and collect samples - blood, scat, hair/feathers and skin cells to monitor and study their biology even though some study samples are thousands and even millions of years old. We can even find a specimen for dissection and study when one dies or washes up on the beach if we don't want to collect yet another one. It involves mostly mundane work but it happens everyday. NAWAC can't do this, WHY? What mundane explanation is there for the fact that every purported Sassy encounter has failed to produce biological evidence of Sassy? Are you intellectually honest enough to stop addressing your imaginary problem with skeptics and address the actual lack of Sassy? Do you have the courage to face the actual problem?

Several here have claimed amazing interactions, over the years. The surest way to offend them to feigned outrage is to ask for a modicum of evidence of their fantastic claims. Happens every time. Lets see here Incorrigible1, I have posted proof only to be mocked at. I have made incredible explanations to what I have observed and encountered only to be proven by others. Others who have made the same observations as myself who I have never made contacted with until now. So your accusations is total bull about being offended, as far as proof it is out there and all you have to do is search for it your self if you want evidence. The more you push this issue of them not being real the less likely people will ignore it. No one needs to show proof to anyone and not even on demand. The proof is theirs or even mine and if it is to remain a secret well then that to D*mn bad. If these creatures want to remain unknown to whom they choose too then who are we. Who are we to say no to them who have more freedom then we will ever have. Us as Humans may learn some thing from them since they live in a structure that does not compare to us. We may learn some thing from them by their actions. In my opinion I believe that you are wrong by dealing with this subject with a closed mind and by demands. Science is discovering new ideas and going with it, while being opened minded. We have to be opened minded to all possibilities in order for science to work. science is discovery and discovery leads to science.

I cannot disagree more with Lake County on this. I can think of several technology and science discoveries that are among the greatest in mankind that were not discovered or developed by university scholars. Tesla dropped out of technical college. The personal computer was developed in a garage in California by college dropouts. A patent clerk in Switzerland that was not allowed to attend universities to pursue advanced degrees blew Newtonian Physics out of 100s of years of prominence with The Theory of Relativity. Edison had little formal education. The list of such people goes on and on. BF is a technical problem that has to be solved by someone able to think outside the box (Universities are Large Boxes) to prove existence.

I have always thought the mind of a truly inquisitive researcher doesn't ever consider and weigh the possibility of being labeled "gullible." It is sort of like being proud to have been a fool for love. You have to put yourself out there to fall on your face if you want to accomplish anything worthwhile in this world. If you're more protective of your cherished reputation, and less interested in advancing scientific knowledge, you'll not have the respect of anyone who really matters anyway. Better to fail trying. If Meldrum steps into it on occasion, and has to step back, so what? All that matters to me is his theories are well founded in what he knows about primate anatomy and the natural world. Keep on falling on your face Dr. Meldrum, I say. Maybe just maybe he finds what we all want to see while doing that. I for one am inspired by that approach to life, and would that some of his critics had half the sand he exhibits. To them I say: What have you dared to fail at recently that is of an equal and as public a venture ?