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Ape or Archiac human? We can handle! Mind speak, shape shifting Bigfoot? We might as well quit now. You cannot prove the unproveable.

They're perfect for kicking puppies and mashing kittens to a fine gruel.

That's always been a problem for me when considering the PGF a hoax. As Norse says, Gimlin would have had to been in on the hoax so that Roger would know for sure he wasn't going to shoot. They agreed ahead of time, don't shoot one unless it charges. Maybe Roger thought he knew Bob well enough that he would stick to his word, but that's still taking a heck of a chance. So unless Roger was playing with someone wearing a suit's life, Bob would have to be in on the hoax. But that raises the question why Bob didn't bust the hoax after he became so angry at Roger that they didn't speak again until Roger was on his death bed. I've always had a hard time squaring that, even though I'm inclined to think it is a hoax. Well, if it's the real deal, I've always thought Patty showed basic motherly instinct to lead a threat away from the direction of her young. It's not that she wasn't worried, she was just willing to risk her life to save her young.

You said it yourself just yesterday on the ISF in response to Yuchi1's offer:dmaker "Heck no, I wouldn't volunteer to spend 10 seconds in the woods with any of those nutbars." The hypocrisy... That was in response to a particular individual(s) here who have offered for skeptics to join them in the woods. Not all forum members as a whole. And I didn't have Yuchi in mind when I said it, but someone else who has made similar offers. I suspect that individual to be mentally imbalanced. LOL..... surely your not serious. Thats a daily occurance by many of the faith. Many, not all.

Yeah, but if you are only on the cutting edge in your own mind, and that is painfully obvious to all others that you repeat your mantra ad naseum, then it's not so impressive, is it?

Mk is definitely not fond of the bipedal ape theory, unless it includes humans (genus homo) within it. He see's what I see in the evidence. The speech in recordings ( if from bigfoot) excludes all other apes.

If this creature was an ape there would be one on a slab some where in a lab. The Genbank would have its DNA in its Database and we would not be having these conversations. No there is more to these creatures then we are led to believe and every time the DNA keeps coming back as human. But they keep making the mistake of saying that it has been contaminated so they throw it out rather then further testing of the sample.

How very fortunate we have you to keep us informed.