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When I came here, there was something in the woods. It'll still be in the woods when my time here is up. In that sense, nothing has changed. What has changed is my view of the community. Not for the better. The way we bicker no wonder bigfoot hides. Nobody seems to be looking for answers, everyone is arguing dogma of one sort or another. They exist vs they don't. They can only exist if they are X. This is proof. That is garbage. Your grandma wears combat boots. It gets TIRING. MIB

I've always enjoyed reading books on the subject of Sasquatch. I used to buy pretty much every one I could find and now own over 50. Many of the new titles claiming ongoing encounters and/or phsychic communication, are poorly written and the authors don't demonstrate much credibility, and as such, don't interest me. Some of these titles are certainly better than others. "Raincoast Sasquatch", "The Locals", and "The Beast of Boggy Creek" are a few that I found to be pretty good reads. Several of them were just plain bad. What do you have in your collections?

What are the chances that Ostman's account seeded/influenced the details of these later reports?

The fundamental law of firearms is that you must be comfortable with what your shooting. I'm a traditionalist too but I do like big bore options But Im a big guy too. But lets face facts, the AR platform has become the Iphone of its time. With just the purchase of one AR lower reciever the possibilities are endless with the different rifles and calibers and attachments you can buy for that platform. Thats the draw to it. unlike my guide gun that is like a rotary telephone, for the most part it is what it is. If Im after dangerous game? I dont like semi autos.......they jam. You have to keep them clean with the AK probably being the best of the class. Ive never had a jam on my marlin, and you can buy after market parts to fortify the action further. There is also a ressurgence of short big bore lever guns....not just with marlin. Along with Hornady Lever Revolution? Its helped to keep these rifles in the forest and out of glass cases. Another ressurgence in the cowboy assualt rifle.......people who live in socialist unconstitutional places in the usa can take a Marlin 1894 44 or 357 rifle and turn it into a very capable defense rifle or bug out rifle. Same goes for rifles in 30 30. I own a AR and a AK, but I prefer my lever and wheel guns, its fun to practice the skills to become proficient with them. And there is some John Wayne nostaliga there as well. Especially when riding on a saddle..... Your right. Same goes for bolt actions replacing lever actions after WW1. Doughboys got used to 1903 springfieds, and when they returned home? Thats what they wanted to go hunting with....... If the US adopted the Steyr AUG in twenty years time? We would probably see a whole new generation of vets wanting bull pup hunting rifles. Its all subjective with the fundamental rule trumping all others, be comfortable with what you shoot. Thanks for the campfire invite! Ill bring the fireball!

Norseman for me simple is best. I just think there is a lot of hype and flash for AR-15's, AK's and Glocks. I've seen them in lists for guns everyone should own and first gun buys and survival guns. I just don't see the draw to them. I don't see them as the end all to be all idea. If people like them great, good for them. Some claim oh the future of hunting. I don't see it as hunting if you got an AR or AK type fire arm. Just how I was raised. Just I cannot understand the draw to them. Simple bolt, bump, lever action for a rifle/shotgun. Think you can agree with me on the lever action Norse. Even a single shot or double barrel. For a pistol, a few guys mentioned it, a revolver. simple, easy, beautiful. Easier to maintain. Don't see the need for a pistol or rifle with 15-30+ rounds of center fire in the woods. Something like a PMR 30 semi auto .22 mag great for worse case in the woods. 30 rounds of little critter getter, though that is a different story. Chances are if you are rushed or encounter a rather grumpy animal (or Sasquatch) in the woods you are not going to get off more than what 2-3 shots. Some places you are even limited to the number of rounds you can have in a center fire rifles mag, 5-10. So why grab the hype? So why the need for more gun than that? As for rounds, I have said it before I'd trust my .303 British (180 gr) or my 12. gauge. Both are hard working rounds and in my neck of the woods used to deal with the largest game we got (Moose and bear). The 12 gauge is a common bear, wilderness defense round across North America. You'll find it in almost every back woods remote cabin. If it wasn't good at the job people wouldn't use it. It won't wreck the shoulder, unless you fire off a box in 1 go. I even have said in the moment a .22 would be better than nothing. The .303 has taken pretty much every animal on the planet. It sits similar to a .308 yet is looked down on in a few circles. Though again my neck of the woods you'd be hard pressed to find a person who wouldn't grab it if they had to go into bear or moose country. Canada up until this year gave the .303 to the Rangers in the North for protection against Polar Bears and to sustain themselves. Even at 180 gr .303 doesn't wreck your shoulder. Now not saying these are better than any other round. .45-70, .338 Win mag, .44 mag, .357 mag, .30-06 etc. etc. all got their place and worth. Just my view. I'm just not a fan of the idea that if I am going into the woods with a round that you raise, you point, you fire and the gun becomes an anti aircraft weapon. Rather something I am comfortable with and trust. Again just me.

When you say "belief", it suggests faith, as in a religion. I don't belief in BF. I think the original post meant to say "how has the BFF influenced your confidence level that BF exists". Sadly, I must admit that the more attention I have payed to the subject matter, the more attention I have put into it, that I have become more skeptical because of all of the implausible claims. Over and over again, there are claims that are proven not to be true, fabrications and so on. After a while, you realize there is a pattern for people that make extraordinary claims.... and one must credit the BFF for allowing us to recognize them via open discussion and questioning of the subject matter.

There are a number of other cases though the Dennis Martin case is a prime example. One involved a couple kids who hid even from the searchers so the big gorillas didn't find them. Another involved someone seeing a climber thrown from a cliff. Several involved "bears" and "wolves" tucking a kid under their arm and carrying them off .. not in their mouth. Ignoring the bigfoot angle entirely is a mistake. However, it's not ALL bigfoot. Some were the victims of human foul play. Others are still alive ... unaware they were still listed as missing. And some are just plain weird like kids taken from house with locked doors and windows. The weather factor is interesting. It seems like "something" knows more about what weather is coming than our National Weather Service and can plan abductions ahead of sometimes un-predicted weather that covers their escape, or at least used to ... our forecasting is better. So .. does that point to something with technology superior to ours? Does it point to "animal" senses that detect changes in weather prior to their arrival? Or does it just mean that the abductions which were not followed by bad weather were solved so they're not mysterious? The take-away, for me, from the Missing 411 books is "pay attention." Not just keeping an eye open for tall hairy things lurking behind trees, not just for sketchy looking people around campgrounds and trailhead parking lots, not just overhead for UFOs, nor just for shiny / shimmery / blurry spots in the woods .. but for anything out of place. I'm not as paranoid as that probably sounds. You can't truly enjoy and appreciate what you take for granted so that awareness of and attention to observing what is around me is its own reward. Back to Ostman? Some of the Missing 411 stories have a similar feel but many do not. MIB