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The solution to all of this is pretty simple really. Find one that is trying not to be found. Kill one that is trying not to be killed. Collect one that its buddies are trying to keep from being collected. Present a specimen to a scientific community that is reluctant to accept evidence. Get a scientist to take a position out on a limb that he doesn't want to sit on. And convince people who don't really want to know.

Hey zman1967.......doing well and thank you. Yeah, I should start posting again, got about 2 months worth of some crazy stuff to post:)

We were in the chat room and started talking about the background and age of the membership. In particular, we noticed that a lot of members are mechanically inclined and of middle age+. I thought it would be fun to see what the membership stats are, thus this poll. I apologize for not being able to include all fields, the board only allows 10 options.

I'm an Aircraft Technician, age 52 well rounded in the mid section, with some artistic ability.

Norseman, your article doesn't address the mitochondria results from over a hundred samples, and like you, simply assumes contamination, or what ever suits their own interpretation without any study of the actual evidence. It is unfortunate that so many of those samples are not available for independent study, but that's not the case for all of them. Where modern sapiens, neanderthal and denisovans are distinguished, it started in the mitochondria. It wasn't there in the bigfoot samples submitted to ketchum. If the hybridization continued from the time of denisovans, it would be possible that a single mitochondrial lineage prevailed. Meaning multiple human ones, because the crossing never stopped.

It will always be impossible to prove bigfoot is human, even with a body. I think Henner Fahrenbach had the same results along with Meldrum and the snelgrove lake sample. It will either always be contamination or its not bigfoot anymore. Don't let that vicious cycle keep your hopes to high for a nonhuman ape to arrive. It is simply not probable that all the tests do date are all wrong. BTW yuchi, there was a hundred plus samples that tested human out of several hundred submitted. Of those that tested human 20 had the entire mitochondria sequenced with no change in the interpretation from outsource labs.

Yes, the 1.1% is a large difference because it matters where the differences are and what they do. It doesn't take very much to make a new species of hominin. Just a couple of mutations in the FOXP2 gene in humans totally switches off vocal language ability.

You're right Crow. A validation does need to be done. But does it really matter whether it's summer or winter. However, the question posed was why we don't see their tracks or them from the air in winter. Maybe the answer is as simple as, they don't like cold feet. Besides if they do move into lower elevation areas during the winter; that would make getting the validation you speak of simpler. Just because they would be more consolidated.

I am amused and dismayed at the pundits that think they're somehow experts but have yet to experience the Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moment of a close encounter. Melba was onto something but (IMO) the almighty dollar reared it's head especially when others involved began to write themselves into the Foundation at high five figure salaries, etc. and that's when I basically said AMF as the purity of the endeavor was contaminated with human greed. Same goes for anyone thinking they're on some noble quest to bring in a slab monkey for altruistic (aka: scientific) purposes. They're lying to the most important person of all...themselves.