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Have no intention of interfering with you tooting your little horn - whatever kind of band you got. Not musically inclined on my end. In the first place, I'm not going to "track" anything. I'm not going to "hunt" anything. I'm not going to be "seeking" anything. So much for these supposed SF personnel with researchers. They obviously don't have a clue as to what they're about. People are simply not doing their homework. This isn't about a hunting trip. You're not going to stalk them. You're not going to run one down. You're not going to track one. You're not going to find them. Comparison of me with SF personnel isn't exactly fair. I also served in Co. H, 75th Inf Rangers (LRRP), and Co. O, 75th Inf Arctic Rangers. Also with the 82nd, 101st, and 1st Cav. You see, SF are primarily teachers - if one wishes to get technical. In the process of my misspent youth, I picked up four MOS's, one bullet hole and shrapnel. As far as whatever's played out over and over on this forum, I haven't heard one single thing yet that has ANY commonalities with what I'll do IF I go after one. Nothing. Nada. I seem to have folks telling me why I can't, entirely based on erroneous assumptions. Some may mistakenly assume I think too much of my skills. My success will have nothing to do with stalking or hunting skills. Absolutely - zero. It's just that I learned a thing or two sharing a mountain with them for a few months. If I go, I'll go to an isolated area and remain for a minimum of three months. Allowing for four, but a minimum of three. Not three days. Not three weeks. Three months. Further, I'll be spending just under four hundred grand to have Mr. Murphy to sit this one out. As I've said - I don't hunt them. I'm not wasting my time. I go, I'll get a good return on my investment. Or I won't go. I don't believe a word of this.

The last dozen posts on this thread have been very interesting. People have viable options to try. I got my airplane annual inspection done yesterday and since the winds were light decided to head out into the Gifford Pinchott National Forest too look around from the air. I truely wish those of you who claim there is little wilderness left could have taken a ride with me. Oh yes, there are vast tracks that have been logged in the last 10 years, but there are huge tracts of forests untouched for decades. No roads, no access, no trails. I found a huge waterfall that has probably not been seen by more than a dozen people from the ground because of how remote it was and inaccessible because of steep terrain. Exactly the kind of place where BF would gather to avoid man. The nearest road was about 10 miles away. Not even sure that is open to travel. So many roads are blocked off or gated shut. So to get to this waterfall you would have to get as near as you could via road, and bush whack through ten miles of dense forest. I could see no ground down through the trees so it is dense. I would guess it would take two days of travel to get from the nearest road to the waterfall. It is exactly that sort of place where BF would congregate in any numbers if they do gather in tribes. The last 5 miles would require special skills. Stealth, quiet movement, and patience to get close and observe without being seen. While use of a helicopter would sure make forest OPs easier, fixed wing aircraft could be used for spotting and resupply. We just need people with the time and skills that can do that sort of thing.

Would some experiences include any of the following terms?... Rock/pinecone throwing. Tree breaks. Stick structures. Weird noises. Sudden wildlife, insects included, silence. Would some of those experiences not include the following?... Bigfoot in logging truck grill. Bigfoot bones. Shot dead Bigfoot. If yes to the former and no to the latter, I thank you for the anecdote and extend my apologies for having to use what is without doubt in my personal experience one of the most hideous travel experiences possible for mankind - SeaTac Airport.

For some habituators I have had contact with, BF has become a religion. For these people BF has achieved Demi-god status. You cannot hide cameras because BF know you have done it and are angered by it. BF pop in and out of our physical world, read minds, know the true history of mankind, are allied with extra terrestrials, use portals, have short little furry demons as helpers to guard their portals, travel on UFO's, know the difference between good and bad people, and the list goes on an on. One might as well be talking about Thor or Zeus as BF seem to exhibit similar powers. OK maybe BF can do one or two of these things but all of them? Dr J supposedly does not allow drugs or alcohol in his camps but where does this stuff come from? Sleep deprivation or mass hallucination? Quite frankly should one trust what happens in camp when the camp proprietor is a hypnotist too? Just wondering.

Most interesting thread. My evidence is quite simple really. As far as I know and have been made aware of there is no specimen to analyze and catalog . I am not of course affiliated with any government agency so, I could be wrong.

Well the basic philosophical problem with a lot of skeptics is that they want proof before they go look. Evidently they do not want to go stick their necks out. So they rely on science to spoon feed them instead. Over on the JREF i see a lot of Europeans telling north Americans what is and is not possible.....4000 miles away, whatever. Nothing replaces boots on the ground. And if you want proof, its best to do it yourself.

May I suggest:

In Crowlogic's black and white world refusal to provide what Crow wants means you are lying. There are other motivations in the world than pleasing Crow. However, I have privately contacted habituators and offered to furnish technical equipment free and advice and in every case have been turned down. That these people will be forum members and want to share share their experiences but refuse to try to get supporting pictures, video or audio is troublesome to me. Most of this was on another forum that was less insistent on supporting claims. Fine keep your location secret, but why blab about your experiences on a forum then turn around and be so coy about pictures or any evidence to support your assertions? The answer to this is often that the BF don't like it and will avoid the cameras anyway. Not if they are hidden well enough. Or they do not want to prove existence of BF. Pictures won't do that anyway. The excuses to suggestions are many and well thought out. The assertion that habber's have been driven off the forum is also suspect. If they have been banned it is because they don't follow the rules. Most likely they leave because people do not buy what they are saying without evidence they could easily provide.