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Things went well at the NW Anthropology conference yesterday. My research partner did the presentation. I answered the questions afterwards. Had some interest from a couple anthropology grad students. Which is what we hoped for. Also had an interesting conversation with a NA lady.

One of the basic problems with asking a question like the OP does, is that it assumes a "data or story collection point" like this forum, is somehow the center of the bigfoot universe, and therefore if ANYTHING related to bigfoot has ever happened anywhere, anytime, we'd certainly know about it. THAT just isn't reality. Even in this day and age of connectivity, the real number of people truly involved in "bigfooting" is probably so disproportionate to the number of people who spend time in the woods in North America, or who have EVER had a BF related incident, that it isn't representational of reality. There are MANY people out there involved in research who do NOT actively use the internet or forums like this to do what they do. And there are (rationally guessing) far more people who HAVE had encounters or sightings over the years that will never reveal that to anyone, that again, the numbers are skewed toward 'non-reporting' of encounters. I'm in my 50's and have read up on the phenomenon since I was a kid in school and didn't become "active" until 2003 when a family member had 2 encounters, but my lifespan barely means anything in relation to how long ago Europeans came to N.A. and how much could or may really have happened in centuries of history that we'll never know about. So to reach for conclusions about populations, and why more haven't been shot, can be entertaining, but we simply don't know what we simply don't know. Speculation is fun, but absent of real hardcore data, doesn't usually lead you to real substantive answers. It just usually leads to more questions with more speculation, and then it goes down a spiraling vortex till you burn yourself out thinking the lack of an answer means none of it can possibly be true. Then people usually burn out and give up because it's human nature. So, "Blessed are those who HAVE seen... because they can't go back to not believing." The number that have been shot and killed will probably (in the end) be much higher than you or I would have guessed, because some secrets are best left buried. Time will tell.

In my opinion, this is just another thread to call out those not wise enough to agree with you so they can once again be mocked publicly. Not refreshing at all...

And yet, a statement like that IS a conclusion based on assumption, with no real evidence either. A report by someone is not a declaration of "And he LIVES right here where I saw it." Travel and migration routes easily explain many sightings and encounters in areas where the creatures couldn't easily maintain it's hidden lifestyle.

Here's an analysis of the 14th elk kill site we found in the area we are researching. It looked like there was promising evidence on the bones in the field. But after collecting the bones and cleaning them up; all I could find for sure was evidence of the usual predators and scavengers. Once again not everything is bigfoot related. VBX1 Analysis.pdf For those who missed it this is a link to my original analysis and what we are looking for. It contains more of the pictures I posted at the beginning of this thread. https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/0bcbab19-1f8d-4d80-af88-a430dd55782f

Twist Your more then welcome to come out to Michigan, I have no problem with it. It is spring time and they are moving so there is no problem. I like this since his all this does just proves how right I am. But in this field one cannot make the promise of seeing them since it is on their terms to except you. I have done this in the past and no one has left disappointed but have left with more question then answer. The Habbers do have a problem and that is that they still have to live in the same place where the creatures exist, where the researchers have visited. If the researcher does not know what is going on , well can leave the Habbers in problems that they will have to deal with un there own. It is their home and they live there and these creatures can make their lives a living hell and make their lives miserable if the researchers does some thing that they doe not like. In my case the worst that can happen is I either die or they vacate the area and I have to search them out again. I have to show them no fear and they have to know I am in control, but we are in their domain. If you say that that you are not scared then you are fooling your self, they will prove you wrong and will work on that fear. The second that you are in their domain you are being monitored and examined. It is up to them to figure out what your intentions are and they will know. This why Habbers will refuse the help since it is their homes that they live in and they have learned to deal with them so that they can coexist. If it was me and they bothered my farm and harmed my cattle and messed with my house to a point that I could not sleep at night. There would have been a body on a slab for science since I have no problem with doing the deed on killing a troubled or rouge creature. The creatures That I have encountered have been peace full and I have never felt threaten but the day that I do feel threaten is the day I will hunt them and pile them up. No, I will not use that tin foil hat so that they cannot read my mind either but use it to my advantage. Norseman this is some thing that you should be looking into if you are looking to bag one for science. You should be looking for ways on how to use their weaknesses on how to draw them in and it might just take that jeti mind trick to do so. Yes laugh about it now but if you try it and it works and you bag one. Who will laugh then. You want help then you should listen cause the secret is in the threads of the BFF and the tools are all here. You want discovery then listen and practice. When the deed is done tell no one, until the results are finish and let the results speak for themselves. If I find a dead body I will do the same and never say a word until it is all over. I do not want nothing from it but the truth that they are real like you and me, flesh and blood no portals and nothing else. everything will be revealed with a body. If they do not exist then the law does not apply, how can the law apply on some thing that does not exist. Same thing happen to the workers who worked at Area 51 who became ill and their law suit. Look it up.

Crow: But, you saw no water in the photo. Dr. Meldrum has hundreds (I think) of photos and casts of BF tracks. Is that not a little more convincing evidence that BF exists than that of a parched desert providing convincing evidence of water somewhere at some time in the past.? The whole concept of habituators is a false concept anyway. Humans don't habituate BF; BF simply continues to hunt and forage in areas they have used for tens of thousands of years. After "we" moved in a very short time ago, and after "we" didn't try to harm them or disrespect them, they simply accepted our presence on the land they "owned" but which "we" owned the title. If anything, "we" became habituated, not them. I think any "habituators" on this forum will tell you the same thing. Bigfoot sure as heck "habituated" me in the Ouachita Mountains, and it was done on their terms, not mine.

Your words not mine Crow. Yes they could be in contact if they so choose to do so. I hope some are at least keeping good journals of their experiences so if and when they choose to share at least there would be that. And yes science does use that kind of information.