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Maintains ? Crow it was only a couple of years back that you were shouting from the roof tops how you thought this animal went extinct sometime in the last couple of decades, let's be real here. So no, I don't understand you maintaining any stance whatsoever as you don't, you have changed your mind drastically recently so forgive me for not taking you seriously and I'm gonna to continue to tell other members on this forum not to do so either. I don't know if the good times have rolled, but the truth certainly has.

If it is not a threat to you why are you here Crow? What do you care about enough to hang around a forum dedicated to something you don't believe exists?

Hmmm....a dilemma. Yessireeeebob. A right perplexin' co-nundrum. Now lessee if there's a solution to such a state of affairs for the poor Sasquatch proponents. Uh, NOPE! No solution that I can see. Then what is to be done here? Wait...I know!....You leave and leave everyone to play their "game" is peace. Yep, that seems like a perfectly simple way to settle an issue that you are definitely banging your head against. You've made zero headway anyway and have repeated the same mantras day in and day out to no avail. But if you choose to NOT go away then bang away 'til the cows come home. Hint: ya gotta a long wait 'cause there ain't no cows. Yep. A long wait indeed

CMF^^^ I'd suggest the assumption that Uncut Forest=BF Habitat is just that. As far as that goes, it probably doesn't hold true for many species who find better food and cover in edge habitats, second-growth cover and transitional zones. It is anyone's guess right now what a BF prefers, although there is some evidence to suggest they are opportunists, not unlike us, and can exploit many ecological niches. Yes, we are losing a lot of species. There are a lot of reasons proposed for that. Deforestation is only one, and it explains only some of the extinctions. Primarily these are amphibians and invertebrates in tropical and sub-tropical climates.

Randy - This is a thing we agree on. There are several pioneer cemeteries in town. I look at the names and wonder who they were, who they loved, what they cared about. In 2002 I lost my best friend. I still go to the cemetery time to time so I know nobody else does. Family. Friends. There are no flowers. It is as if she never lived. It messes me up. I have a ritual .. I eat half a Snickers bar and drink half a diet pepsi 'cause splitting those is what we used to do. Y' know ... that's all any of us have. A few people who knew us will remember. When they're gone, too ... we might as well have never been. How we treat the dead is very indicative of who we are. Those who act respectful are respectful, those who act as boorish pigs are boorish pigs. That's all there is to it. Graves are a sacred thing not to be messed with. If I find a bigfoot grave, I will take flowers ... and maybe a snickers bar. MIB

The OP study only stated this is a possibility, hypothesis or likelihood, not an absolute. So it's not impossible. We don't know what the 50/50 hybrids were like, but we can presume some of the females were at least fertile. Would those females then reject a male fetus from another cross with male Cro-Magnon ? or Neanderthal? There can be no assumption that the cross occured only once within a clan or which group, Early Human or Neanderthal, the hybrids stayed with.

It's not big deal. I include some astragalus root powder in my coffee. Read up on it. You might want to use it yourself. The commercial version they charge an arm and a leg for is termed TA-65. And that's just a derivative of the CGA.

Coincidentally, every morning, I add to my coffee Astragaloside IV (AG-IV) and Cycloastragenol (CGA) to activate telomerase to lengthen my own telomeres. I may mutate myself. Hope you're right, hifflier.

I made a reference in a post back several ago that mentioned it is not so much the number of chromosomes that is the enigma as that info was intact in regard to many files when recombined or fused. Of course, something switched on in the form of epigenetics and/or turning genes on/off through regulation as well. A mutation here or there and then natural selection takes over from there. I can guarantee you that one of those mutations was increased neural folding of cortex to make more room for convolutions (gyri and sulci) (along with your FOXP2 language gene). Maybe a bottleneck, maybe not but hard to imagine not. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12733395 Of course, there are those that disagree with the role of mitochondrial DNA, Ancestral Eve and just what a Homo sapienis is too.

That's good info but it doesn't address the following questions: And if genetically modifying a Human reproductive cell from a male and female by separating the telemere-fused chromosome what Hominidae would one then get? Pongo? Gorilla? Pan? I don't doubt that it's been tried either.

Radio logical pollution? You talking about DNA damage due to EM radiation? Some very intelligent people (Steven Hawking for one) claim that we are broadcasting to the universe how primitive we are by emitting radio waves into space and some advanced intelligence could show up to pillage the planet and enslave or eat us. An advanced intelligence would not likely betray their existence to unknown star travelers.

Going at this from a different angle do the 46 Human chromosomes match up with 46 of the 48? If so then what was lost, or gained, as a result of the fusing? i.e., which physical traits were altered? Brain size or function? Musculature? Hip/knee/foot morphology? Hair? Also with the discovery of the Zika virus being a strong candidate for microencephaly and Africa being it's apparent source could the chromosomal mutation be the result of a viral nature? If the population of individuals with 46 chromosomes was larger then as guyzonthropus mentioned a bottleneck could have occurred during maybe an ancient outbreak of Ebola? I know science is looking hard for such answers because science really DOES want to know our story. Had the Library at Alexandria not burned we would have had three volumes of the History of the World which supposedly covered a little over 400,000 years of oral (as far back as there was language) and written history. What a tremendous loss! Science is looking hard for those books as well thinking there maybe copies buried somewhere. I have my own musings on such things.

Would it be possible that the hybridization involved not Neanderthals, but rather an intermediate form of homogenous or even some extant population of H. erectus or some other such species we've yet to find fossil evidence of? Maybe a root species could still reproduce with the forms that arose from it should their populations once separated reconnect and interact through some means such as bottlenecks, land bridges, environmental shifts or even simple migrations. Perhaps we split from BF at a bottlenecked point where our lineage had only the 46 within the populations that survived the event and that which became BF could have been populations located someplace quite distant from us, facing a different set of environmental selective factors, thereby driving our disparate paths of development to the distinctive forms we have today, yet arising from the same species. The might in part explain the "human contamination" issues. I don't know enough about toxicology, but is it possible that some plant toxins ingested by a localized population might, over time/generations have an effect on our chromosomal makeup? That it could target specific portions of our DNA at any of any number of stages of either replication or development? Then these people prove to be a post bottleneck founder stock? Its a lot of ifs, but many things are... Geographical isolation is usually a factor in speciation, so another possibility may be that there were isolated groups advancing along their distinct processes of speciation who then encountered one or more of the other still related outlier groups who while diverging were still able to hybridize amongst each other resulting in trait-swapping as it were producing evermore variants to be tested for viability. Just a thought. I wonder to what degree cultural differences played in these circumstances? Surely different environments would have fostered different interpretations as to why things are/happen as they do, just as diverging social contexts would give rise to varied social constructs "no daughter of mine is 'going to the river' with one of those hairy people!" But then not only did it turn out the hairy folks were a lot stronger than the pinks, they had also discovered just how good a bedwarmer those cute little she-pinks make....So much for custom!

In ALL of Eastern and Western Europe it is thought that there were only 70, 000 Neanderthal individuals. And as an ancient a species they were they are thought to be hybrids themselves having their roots in two even more ancient branches- one in Northern Europe and one in Central Asia- each well over a million years old. The idea of ONE male with 46 chromosomes finding ONE femane with the same 46 pairings is just not making sense to me. There had to be a source outside the circle. Somewhere sometime there had to be some kind of general cause for the mutation resulting in the fusing of a pair of the original 48 pairs of chromosomes. The side of Earth where these individuals were residing had to have received a mega-blast of space radiation hitting that corner of the globe which was absorbed by everything in a limited area making the residual of what was left of the initial bombardment much less as the Earth spun on it's axis. So everything else was radiated in a relatively much lover dose. Gamma rays get absorbed by the atmosphere rather quickly and therefore don't last long but a sever blast could make it to the ground before the intensity was lessened. Astrophysicists have showed us many supernovae, some close by, that could have been the culprit. Our own Galaxy has enormous gamma ray bubbles blasting out of the core that have been estimated to have been initiated 3-10 million years ago and and one PhD has shown that a superwave hit here approximately 40,000 years ago. Since none of this, or very little of it. has been discussed in context as a possible chromosomal mutation scenario then perhaps a larger picture of our past might need to be incorporated.

Now Norse, using the specific, scientific taxonomy terminology is not a play on words. Hey, I didn't even post them - you did. I simply don't agree with the postulation that what happened between humans and Neanderthal has anything to do with the possibility that another undiscovered entity may exist - that is a hybrid - from another species so far unknown. Keyword: unknown. I further don't think that the current fossil record is complete. I don't think that there are no other discoveries to be made. And we can go in circles on this, but what we KNOW scientifically is likely incomplete. You and I agree a body is the only thing that will settle the matter. Anything else is speculation, fun to think about, but there is insufficient hard data to be indicative of anything. You can believe it's an Gigantopithecus based critter - and I can believe it has too many human characteristics and is some sort of hybrid - and one idea is just as good as another.