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Quite the impressive plea to authority you've got going there. It's not a "plea to authority" logical fallacy....your twisting it. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/21/Appeal_to_Authority It's a real list of five real scientists whose expertise is pertinent to the existence of an unknown hominid. Why are they on the list? Because they all have spoken favorably about the possible existence of Sasquatch. You may find the possibility ludicris? But they keep an open mind and would be willing to look at further evidence.

Who is this Osterman chap you speak of? It sounds as if he had quite an adventure!

Thanks for the update BC. Too bad about the bum steer on the possible track location. But, it's always good to check out new country. My son was able to review the time lapse today. All we got were a couple deer checking out our camp and a rabbit. There's one frame of the area in the daytime.

My buddy Thomas and I had made arrangements a few nights ago, while out with friends for Chinese food, to get together today, Sunday, May 8th, for a run up to a remote valley, as Thomas had heard a second or third hand report of a logging crew seeing very large, human-like footprints near a specific landmark in that area. He is a long time Sasquatch researcher and author , so of course he wanted to check the report out, and I have an interest in the big hairy hominids, so it was the perfect excuse for a road trip. We got away at 0730 for the 40km highway run to the turnoff, then another 30km up that logging road to the valley turnoff. This route took us through the scene of last year's major forest fire, which I reported in another trip thread last August, and through a much smaller new fire that was burning today, with ground crews and bucket helis working to douse it. Once on the branch road to the reported track site, we slowed down, as it was rougher than the main FSR, and we wanted to keep our eyes peeled for tracks. About 4km in, Thomas spotted some tracks in a small muddy pond alongside the road, so we stopped to check them out. They were from a good sized black bear, with the pads of the front paws half again as wide as my own size 12EEE boot, and just down the road a dozen yards or so, there was a large pile of bear scat, and a game trail through the weeds and crossing the road, but no sign of the track maker in the flesh. Just beyond that spot, we came upon a couple of loggers pumping water into their fire supression storage tanks, mounted on a big flatbed trailer, so we stopped to chat, but got no further info on the reported tracks, as they were not part of the same crew that supposedly made the original report. Beyond the branch road where they were working, it was obvious that no logging had occurred in the last year, as the road became much rougher, and had frequent washouts. When we reached the reported area of the tracks, it was obvious that there had been no logging anywhere within miles of the landmark Thomas had been given as "the location", but we continued to the end of the trail just to see how far it carried on. That turned out to be another 10km, where a washed out old bridge, with a very swift, deep, snow fed creek running through what was left of the old road. We were disappointed that the intel Thomas had received was proved unreliable, but were glad for the chance to get together and check it out, regardless. At this point, we stopped for lunch, then headed back out, checking out a few of the branches off the main road, We also located a lovely little lake in the forest that Thomas remembered from a previous ATV trip through the area several years ago.

Crow I am not sure what you mean by word salad Crow? I have a hard time understanding sentences like this so give me time on this. Now was it not the key to get people with high profiles to have a encounter, a face to face encounter. That this would settle all that is out there, but instead you are in a way mocking that foundation that needed to be built. I brought up the issue of the woo as you stated since I feel like it is a part of the issue, what else could it be if one has not been shot and brought in on a slab. Your take is that they plain just do not exist, should i blame you for the way you think? No, why should I ? If you have not experience what I have. That is the problem with those who have not expereince this, it makes people skeptical with good reason. I do not believe that the cern or hidron collider is going to solve this, nor is higher mathmatics. This needs to be experienced in the field , and needs to be done by two seperate individuals . In different areas of the Unted States Forest and see if the same result come back, for the proof. Now why would I say this if it was not true, this is putting it on the line and for proof. Whether it be woo,paranormal or what ever, we would have an understanding that they are capable of this. Now is this not science. If one is experiencing this well then it is just crazy, but if alot of people are then there must be something to it. Every time I hear of some one else expereincing this woo it helps me understand what it is we are dealing with. Also lets me know that I am not alone and that I believe is most important, since you now know you have not lost your mind. So it makes you happy and saves you a trip to the hospital. The forum has a Steering Commitee from who within their ranks they can trust and test this them selves.The worst that can happen is that it does not work, but if they came out that it does not work some here would be mad. Problem, How I see it there will always be a problem with this creature. No matter how we slice it the creatures existance will always be denied. For this reason only a body is needed, but what are the risks if one was shot? Will the Men in Black visit, being watched constantly by hovering drones, or plain and simple thrown in jail where you will never be seen again? Is it really worth it Crow or should it just stay hidden where it belongs. Maybe I should go silent too and be like a ghost.