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Since this thread is about hoaxing would some of you skeptic geniuses that have an explanation for everything kindly explain how someone manages to get out in the woods ahead of me and leave fresh footprints, make noises off in the brush when I try to get them to come out of cover, growl at me, throw things, break branches, generate infrasound, and yes get their picture taken after whooping for several minutes then sounding like a bipedal dinosaur coming through the woods towards me? Considering no one knows where I go on any given day, no one follows me on the logging roads (can hear other vehicles and see the dust) , and often I spend all day out without ever seeing another human, I am really curious how some hoaxer manages to pull all of that off in a 100 square mile area. Mind reading? 24 hr a day surveillance? Black silent helicopters? Of course I am a simple proponent so probably am easily fooled by those incredibly intelligent hoaxers like Roger Patterson.

OOPS! Sorry for shining the badge. I'll never do that again. Folks, listen up: Inc1 is a scoundrel. 'Nuff said.

Anyway, I might try your setup for a change, since it's really fun for me. Good luck LCB and all in your travels. I can tell very easily if there is problems with audio. While people like to use the "There are no experts on Bigfoot" there are those of us that are experts in audio and video. I used to use two zoom h5's but quickly learned they aren't very good for this. There are just too many things to go wrong with these types. They are great if you're doing an on location recording for a video or tv show, public speech, band, ect. The cheaper sony I mentioned is perfect. I will post an audio of mine and you can see the difference in clarity and sound. Not saying these higher dollar recorders aren't good, but to be honest as I said in an earlier post, they are way more "tender" if you will. I screwed up one of my h5's due to moisture that got in it. $500 down the drain in only four days. But mine are way out in the wilderness and from what I can gather yours is just outside your house? Be careful if you put this out in the woods and make sure to cover it really good.

Crow . What does the Manhattan project and the Germans have to do with the title of this thread other than you are doing your usual trolling and arguing about everything, even the off topic stuff?.

Those ground structures are nothing more then hunters ground blinds , I have used them in the past and can get photo's of them here in Michigan if you like. The same goes with those sleeping structures where a hunter will stay so that they do not have to keep hunting in and out for game. So it make all good sense to me that they would all be close together. The dogs reactions is a good indicator of what is there, If these creatures were there these dogs would not go near those shelters. If creatures were around these dogs would not be wondering far from it's owner. You would see their tails tuck between their legs and even closer to their owner. So I see this person as reaching for conclusions as being as bigfoot. The prints could be bear, but they are not clear enough to identify. Unless you are actually there on site to track then these prints can be anything. The knocks are interesting as well as the noises and who knows he might of been in contact with some thing. But the dogs did not indicate anything and this is what I was observing. In my own opinion. Crow is right and has the right to be the devil advocate on this one and I agree with him. This is a healthy view point of a skeptical that we should all have.

I haven't watched the video, but if the silhouette in the screen grab for the video is supposed to be a squatch, the proportions are human, not squatch. I've seen shelter structures in out of the way places ever since I was old enough to notice them back in the late '60s, so they've been around all along. It's just that people have actually started looking for them now. No mystery about why everyone and their brother is now reporting them. I've seen both standing and disassembled structures. The reason they always stood out for me is that kids used to disappear in the areas of Northern Nevada and Northern California we frequented. It always made me wonder who was building them, living in them, and then taking them apart in the cases of the disassembled ones. They always made me equally nervous, considering that they were either occupied by some off the grid human or a squatch. Usually the structures were non-permanent, sometimes just the logs and branches, sometimes with smaller branches with pine needles and leaves overlaid to cover the gaps. It wasn't hard to tell after the second glance that they weren't natural deadfall (logs and branches from other areas). One of the things that puzzled me to begin with was the complete lack of trash and other leavings that would indicate human occupation. Hobos, as we used to call homeless, aren't the neatest people. With regard to the stump inside the mound of branches you found, MIB, it was a heated shelter. A rotting stump is like a compost pile and evolves heat, especially ones that are infested with carpenter ants (snacks). You build a mound of branches over it and you can trap the heat, especially if you use a second layer of leafed branches and other vegetation to close the gaps. Snow over that helps even more. I've been telling people for a while that bigfoot likely use compost heating, or midden heating, during colder months. The middens reek. The squatch reek because they sleep in reeking shelters. The BFRO website a couple of years ago had an investigation of a whole bunch of decomposing stumps they found and thought had some relationship to squatch. I don't know if they ever thought of the compost heating angle.

Crawling out on a limb a little bit just for the sake of keeping an open mind, we have the same 100% lack of (identified) bigfoot/ancestor fossils in North America as we have from Africa and Asia. Whatever the cause for that ... unless it is a matter of having them but not recognizing them for what they are yet ... there's as much evidence for "evolving" in North America as there is for Africa and Asia. There have been periodic land bridges for the past 2 to 2.5 million years. A shared ancestor of theirs and ours could just as easily have been isolated here LONG ago and developed into what we call bigfoot here as developing elsewhere then migrating here. The fossil record for each is equal right now. Dunno. What I am fairly sure of is the results of testing 'reliable' sasquatch DNA would be very, very interesting. We could find out just how close we are to them both in absolute terms and relative to known great apes. There's even a chance they're not closely related at all, instead, they fill a similar niche so they take a similar form, akin to European hares vs Patagonian "hares" that are physically similar but genetically very very distant indeed. Did I mention "dunno" yet? Curious, though, very curious. MIB

No worries. We have several species of both Homo and non Homo Apes that could fill the bill of a Sasquatch predecessor living in the far East. As Ive said before the concept of Sasquatch really is not strange at all. The only two factors that puts Sasquatch out of whack with scientific knowledge is time and location. We have fossil beds full of bipedal ape men......even in far Asia.