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Well, if you think the supermodels are high-maitainence(!?) you oughtta see those dang truffle bunnies! Yikes!

Extrapolating a little .. "Dr J" has put a bullseye on himself. That someone disbelieves is not the issue. It is how the disbelief is expressed if it is expressed. I suggest ridiculing others is often a cover for the insecurities of the person doing the ridiculing as much as an expression of their feeling about what they're ridiculing. There are courteous, professional ways to express disagreement, rudeness is not one of them, especially directed at the host of the event. If you don't want to hear what "Dr J" says, don't accept the invitation to speak at the event he's hosting. If you can't politely express disbelief in whatever Thom Cantrall is "selling", don't accept an invitation to speak at his event. This should be simple ... and it is 'til insecurity gets in the way of manners. MIB

Still hunting ... well, the joke is "he hasn't filled his tag so he's still hunting." Seriously though, moving slowly at a sub-walk pace such that each step is a separate event. Take a step, stop, look, listen, repeat. I only saw the last of the three. First .. in heavy cover. Douglas fir providing high canopy, madrone and tanoak mid canopy, and fairly heavy, but clumpy, evergreen huckleberry at the bottom. That's the location I'm most familiar with. Shooting distances vary from 10 feet to 75 yards, I've done all, and my 35 season average is between 20 and 25 yards there. Distance ... 15 feet, roughly. There was weirdness to that one. That's all I really want to say about it. The second ... the second day had 3 parts. I didn't see the first one, only detected its exit 8 feet or so behind me, and I didn't see what made the mumbly giggly unintelligible voices that exited seconds later up the same brushy ridgeline. Again, a douglas fir timbered ridge, but no middle canopy, just obscuring brush at ground level .. ocean spray, hazel, that kind of thing. The one I saw was on my way back out 45 minutes later about 150-200 yards closer to my truck. That spot had been logged and replanted. Second growth firs were in clumps with some large meadowy, grassy areas between. I left the road / trail (the numbered USFS trail was originally a dirt two-track accessing a small earth dam providing water for stock and a line shack on back in the timber) to my right to take a picture of the valley I'd been in and the big mountain beyond. I 'ran into' that guy ... really about 100 feet from me. It ran under some of the firs bent at the waist with its arms extended overhead plowing aside the dead lower fir branches as if to protect its face. My guess is it was about 7-1/2 feet tall if upright, smaller than what I think the earlier one had been. The one I saw was built "lightly" like an NFL tight end, only scaled up, and somewhat resembled SWWASAS's avatar, only more of a dark red / brown mix. Hmmm .. yeah, Bering Straight is a good guess. The followup question .. seems like there's always a followup ... which time? Did they only arrive at the most recent glacial maximum same as the ancestors of our Native American tribes or had they been here since a previous one? I think when we finally do a full genome analysis we're going to have .. well, not a guarantee, but at least a better answer. MIB