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I'm going to boil it down to brass tacks which may piss some people off but oh well. And this is not directed at any one poster on this forum. People say all the time that there is enough evidence to consider this creature real. But then they turn around and bash science for looking at the evidence and scoffing at it. Sound familiar? So then they will say that they are not interested in proving the existence of the creature to anyone. Which to me is like saying..."Well...since you won't agree to shorten the playing field and stretch the rules in this instance? I'm taking the ball and going home!" Rules are rules, and they especially do not bend them for a 800 lbs North American unknown to the fossil record primates. We don't have solid physical evidence this creature exists and that is the problem. If you walked into the Smithsonian tomorrow with a Sasquatch toe bone you dug up on the N American continent? Completely new ballgame! If someone is proclaiming that proving the existence of this creature to anyone does not interest them? Then why pack dental resin around in your trunk? Why pack around audio equipment? Why shoot video with your GoPro? And why on EARTH would you post it on YouTube or a forum only to get eviscerated by skeptics??? In which the whole disgruntled science cycle begins anew........ It hurts my head. If your out there to enjoy your time in the forest and possibly interact with a unknown primate? Good for you. Do not concern yourself with foot casts or blobsquatch photos.....just enjoy. But if your interest is to provide good evidence to science of this creatures existence. We all have to UP our game! I really hate hearing sniveling about how far the goal posts are away from us. And about how no one is helping us. We are on our own! No one is coming to our rescue! This needs to be said! Don't stop until you have the physical evidence to go to science with and say "Alright.....you asked for it? You got it!" Claiming that science is going to somehow cheat us in the end so why bother? Is a cop out! Dont give all of your evidence to one institution, guard some of it in your own possession. Things get lost, people make mistakes, people are crazy, tests destroy samples. Lastly, it's never going to be some sort of Bindernagel ratcheting up of reports and foot cast numbers that tips the scales in our favor. It's going to have to be the find of the century. A tooth, a bone, a skull...a bloody corpse.

What **evidence** can you put on the table to show that it doesn't? Remember, lack of evidence is not evidence of lack. Doesn't hurt to remember that if they're scavenging off our leftovers of one sort or another, they have access to the same food we do. Not necessarily in a condition we find appealing, but with the same nutritional value. My comment was directed at CM which why I quoted him, not you. (Looks a bit narcissistic when you think it's all about you.) However, look at the PGF, look at Freeman Footage, look at the Memorial Day footage, tell me the heads are "very small proportional to the body". If you truly believe that, I'm laughing at you. MIB

I have "noticed" that no, they don't. So start over, only do it with valid assumptions this time, please? MIB

So, possibilities seem to be: the track ways are faked (this does not pass the smell test for remote track ways), the witnesses are lying (a possibility, but that means there are multiple liars reporting track ways, and perhaps providing photographs), the tracks have been misidentified, or they are real, and they need to be explained as being generated by a real non-human creature. Merely asserting some explanation for a track is insufficient. The onus of proof for any proposed explanation is at least as strong for the skeptical position as it is for the proponent position. Some people believe that the default position is to provisionally accept the report from an informant. I would not go that far, but when we have multiple similar reports, we should perhaps consider the consistency worthy of note as well. This track way evidence should be compelling to anybody. However for some, perhaps those with an agenda, it seems easy to ignore. We have the odd flaky sort of rebuttal to this sort of evidence, such as scaffolding, weighted feet, people pulled behind trucks, and so on. Many of you have seen this stuff I am sure. People posting such absurd ideas should be put on ignore, they give skepticism a bad name. In my own view, we give them a credence they don't deserve by responding.

Podcasts is a product. To sell a product you gotta pull the people in by what ever means necessary, or you don't have a product. I quit listening to SC over a year ago. I do not listen to the Outlaws anymore either unless my name is being mentioned. I recently put two and two together and figured out who this old woman secret insider was that the Outlaws has on their podcast sometimes with the name "Suzy" that somehow always has this secret government inside information about Bigfoot . Just like Mr. Black was on SC. I called her out on that. So funny it was. Just a crazy old lady with too many cats that belongs to all the woo pages on facebook with absolutely no secret government credentials that she claims to have. So basically, they gotta make lot of stuff up on these podcasts or there wouldn't be enough fodder to even make an hour long show. Nothing but entertainment. I might believe 2% of the guests on any of these things.

LCB, they are doing that to increase traffic, check out their visit counts of late. Just an entertainment show now. Same with all the other shows that go this route. There are still a few decent blog talk shows out there, but their traffic tends to be a fraction of Chronicles or Outlaws. The horse "assaulting" episodes a few months back on Outlaws was truly a low point... SASwhat is something of an outlier in this trend, with serious discussion and high traffic. I think they pull in listeners since they are known for their films.

How does the imaginary bear account for the unknown primate DNA and unknown primate hairs? That DNA was about 1/10th of the way from ours towards chimp. That. Ain't. A. Freakin'. Bear. I don't know how to say that any more clearly. If you want to hang onto being wrong, I can't stop you. MIB