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I have not read this whole thread, but to just give my opinion. I would rather deal with endless hours of Sasquatch boredom, then give 5 minutes of my time to hoaxers, snake oil sales men, and the lunatics running the asylum that make up to much of today's Sasquatch field. Better to stick with actual research than waste time with those infected by "Ivan Marks Syndrome". Thomas Steenburg

Having frequented the threads since 2013, I have come to a point where I have gotten bored with the dialogue we often find here. Like in the Pink Floyd song, "running over the same old ground, till we found, the same old"....insert your choice of words, mine would be themes. There really is not anything new to discuss. It is my conclusion that most of what is done here is for the purpose of defining our individual beliefs or views, or convincing others of them. What if we tried something different, perhaps the skeptics spend some time arguing the other side, and likewise the believers doing the same. Anyone familiar with debate knows that you must know the argument from both sides, but I am not really talking about debate, I am talking about thought. To really put yourself in the shoes of someone else, and try to imagine their perspective. I know that some would laugh at this prospect, but actually it would be a healthy change from our somewhat dusty routine.

Stick with ketchup on your burger, fries, and meatloaf, leave the dogs alone...that is my advice..

My brother puts ketchup on corn dogs, which is obviously a cry for help.

I'm going to boil it down to brass tacks which may piss some people off but oh well. And this is not directed at any one poster on this forum. People say all the time that there is enough evidence to consider this creature real. But then they turn around and bash science for looking at the evidence and scoffing at it. Sound familiar? So then they will say that they are not interested in proving the existence of the creature to anyone. Which to me is like saying..."Well...since you won't agree to shorten the playing field and stretch the rules in this instance? I'm taking the ball and going home!" Rules are rules, and they especially do not bend them for a 800 lbs North American unknown to the fossil record primates. We don't have solid physical evidence this creature exists and that is the problem. If you walked into the Smithsonian tomorrow with a Sasquatch toe bone you dug up on the N American continent? Completely new ballgame! If someone is proclaiming that proving the existence of this creature to anyone does not interest them? Then why pack dental resin around in your trunk? Why pack around audio equipment? Why shoot video with your GoPro? And why on EARTH would you post it on YouTube or a forum only to get eviscerated by skeptics??? In which the whole disgruntled science cycle begins anew........ It hurts my head. If your out there to enjoy your time in the forest and possibly interact with a unknown primate? Good for you. Do not concern yourself with foot casts or blobsquatch photos.....just enjoy. But if your interest is to provide good evidence to science of this creatures existence. We all have to UP our game! I really hate hearing sniveling about how far the goal posts are away from us. And about how no one is helping us. We are on our own! No one is coming to our rescue! This needs to be said! Don't stop until you have the physical evidence to go to science with and say "Alright.....you asked for it? You got it!" Claiming that science is going to somehow cheat us in the end so why bother? Is a cop out! Dont give all of your evidence to one institution, guard some of it in your own possession. Things get lost, people make mistakes, people are crazy, tests destroy samples. Lastly, it's never going to be some sort of Bindernagel ratcheting up of reports and foot cast numbers that tips the scales in our favor. It's going to have to be the find of the century. A tooth, a bone, a skull...a bloody corpse.

Well my other side thread to this one, Bigfoot Boloney is coming back to the scene under its more sustainable name....apparently the other name was not sustainable....

I have one lens I bring to bear to view all theories about BF. It is one that I hope helps to see what a super-adapted bi-pedal animal is capable of doing in its native environment. The gold standard for comparison are the skills and habits of the N. A. Native cultures. We know some how these peoples earned a living and defended themselves from aggressors, but I'm assuming large amounts of information were lost, given the limitations of an oral tradition and catastrophic disruptions to their cultures. As well, we have to assume there is information to this day that is not shared with members of the dominant culture. Even based on what we think we know about their abilities, there is a common agreement the N.A. Indians were supremely adapted at exploiting their environment to sustain themselves and avoid dangers. Just their ability to resist everything the continent could throw at them for 13,000 + years is proof of that. That they could not withstand the onslaught of microbes and guns just makes the case of their specialized adaption. My assumption regarding BF is they are exponentially better at living where they live than even the pre-Columbian natives. One reason being, I believe, is they don't have the burden of sustaining a complex social order or maintaining even a rudimentary, albeit portable, shelter. It is exactly this pure nomadic adaptability where they do the N.A. Indian one better. As far as I can tell, for a BF, home is where the food is. When there is no food, "home" goes looking for more food. And over how big a range is this foraging area? "Frickin' huge", is about the only way to describe it that gets the point across. How good are they at locating and securing food? At a level that defies human comprehension and belief, probably. So, on the topic of the OP, your are left to consider one more area of behavior for which we really don't have a known model. As I said before, you can tilt over into making the case for BF exceptional-ism, and open yourself up to cheap shots from those opposed to the very premise. Fair enough. But...if you proceed from the premise they are living, breathing, eating, crapping, breeding, fighting, sleeping, walking organisms, you've got to hypothesize how they keep on doing all of those things more often than not. For lack of a better, more detailed explanation, I just have to conclude they are just very good at what they do, on a level I probably couldn't comprehend even if I witnessed it up close and personal. At a certain point, supreme adaptation looks like magic, and plenty of cultures are guilty of that misunderstanding. Not a very satisfactory explanation, but one the evidence is telling us to consider.

I tried to revive the "scariest sighting" threads because I enjoy reading and discussing the sighting reports. That's what I loved doing here. The arguing and posturing gets old quickly. Enough said..