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The Louisiana Hunt experience was one of a rush the like never before/since experienced when hearing the two others coming through the timber to the aid and defense of the one wounded by the Caddo tribal member, former alleged military sniper. Realization of one's own mortality was instantaneous and approaching a condition red situation. To this day had the wounded one not bolted from out of the blown down treetop causing their advance to cease, I often wonder how things would have then transpired. The "hunt" ended up being (IMO) a case study in what not to do if you are trying to kill one of these beings. It was an absolute miracle that no one (homo sapiens) was shot and killed or maimed. The Cookout experience taught me/us a valuable lesson in just how high the intelligence level of these beings likely is and how they exhibit a level of forbearance 99.99% of humans could never attain. The strength exhibited in slamming over the tower stand and then trailing us up out of the bottoms for ~1/2 mile to heave the softball sized stone at us from ~75 yards away was a lesson in how puny we humans really are when it comes to brute strength. These two events along with a couple others left me with a profound respect for their woodcraft and intelligence that resulted in a shift in paradigm regarding whether to kill one, or not. On the Rogers county property, I know of five hunters that had encounters which resulted in their abandoning the lease and not returning to the area, ever again. One was traumatized to a level approaching physical shock and the others very unnerved by what their eyes told them regarding what they believed before and then, afterwards. Basically, the psychological ramifications (in these instances) ranged from wonderment to apprehension approaching a flight response.

He already does that, and does a dang nice job of documenting it as well I think. His research section is full of photos, video and audio from the field. And let's not forget his tireless work with the SSR, as well as the BFF. Gigantor is one of the most important unsung person this subject has.

As part of the agreements between myself and witnesses who have asked that I personally investigate their enigmatic animal encounters, the locations of the events are not publicly disclosed for all the reasons you have listed plus others. Those four BF research groups that have requested that I investigate reports they receive bind me by a confidentially agreement from releasing information about the name of the witnesses, their addresses and the locations of the encounters if they occurred on private property, primarily for the same reasons you so clearly described. In response to Gig's "easy to track them" question; yes, it would be easy if the witnesses actually wanted to do that quickly after the theft of the fruits/berries. Not so surprisingly, danged few of them that were aware of what had swiped the food stuff cared to follow fresh tracks and encounter a family group of big hairy primates and interrupt the their hard earned meal. In most cases the investigators don't reach the scene for weeks or more after the event, and the trail of tracks and dropped produce may be hard to find and follow. Most folks that have these experiences could care less about "providing evidence" of BF's existence to skeptics who like to pile and heap their meaningless opinions that BF is a myth all over the internet. Those "all knowing folks" with little or no experience with real. day-and night 'boots on the ground" fieldwork are simply like pesky gnats; not much you can do but listen and watch them buzz. Thanks for your spot on post NCBFr.

During the past few decades of investigating reports and conducting research concerning the presence of Bigfoot in the Southern and Southeastern states, I routinely receive information and see evidence that clearly indicates that the primates relish fruits, berries and vegetables from any source. A recent contact with an older gentleman who lives in Southern Missouri who is aware that a group of Bigfoot have foraged on his and a neighbor’s property for years, told me about Bigfoot taking his entire grape crop. The man was not as upset about the overnight theft of his crop of fruit as he was about the Bigfoot’s antics with his two-piece, concrete bird bath. During the hot weather the man filled the birdbath with cold water each afternoon. Every few mornings he would discover the concrete bowl had been removed from its pedestal and brought and set down on the ground near the home’s back door. The first time that occurred he was not sure that someone was not “playing a prank” on him. The man stated the act was not funny to him because he had to carry the heavy bowl and re-install on the pedestal. He complained the he was, “Too danged old to be lifting and carrying the thing and set it back in place every few days.” He had known a group of Bigfoot came onto to his property every few night because he had heard them “hollering, whooping and beating on trees after dark”. He had no problem with them doing that, and had left apples out for them in the back yard in the area of the bird bath. When he continued to find the birdbath bowl on the ground by the back door for a “refill” he became frustrated by the animals’ antics. He didn’t discuss the situation with anyone until his whole crop of grapes – he said a few bushel – disappeared overnight and he found wide, 18” long bare foot prints in the vineyard. At that time he decided to talk to a neighbor who lived about one-quarter mile away. He approached the man by asking him if he had heard any strange animals sound at night. The man told him he had not only heard them many times at night but at times they were close enough to his home that he had determined there were at least five in the group. He told the man that the animals were those called MO-Mo in that state and Bigfoot in other place. During their discussion the neighbor also told him that he had a peach tree that had such an abundance of fruit this season he cut small forked trees from his property to prop up the heavy loads of fruit on the peach tree limbs to keep the limbs from breaking. The neighbor stated that when the fruit ripened he discover that all of the peaches were picked or shaken loose from the tree and carried off during one night. There was no evidence that a human or wild animal had climbed the tree. Both men realized that typical wild animals would eat their fill at the site, and evidence of that would have been obvious on the ground under the tree. There have been numerous reports of Bigfoot sightings from that county in Missouri that have been submitted to well known Bigfoot research groups. The writer has conducted field work in that area, and recorded reports from several respected area residents. This man’s report is typical of many others that I have investigated in various states– except for the birdbath aspect - that is a new wrinkle for me. The other slight differences in the other reports were that the cultivated fruits stolen were usually apples, pears, plums and, in one instance, figs. The most well known case of a Bigfoot foraging on cultivated fruit occurred in a large peach orchard in Chilton near Clanton, Alabama in the 1960s. The orchard’s owner called the county sheriff’s office and reported the routine theft of peaches on the back side of the orchard near the wood line.. An investigator from that office went to the scene. He saw and photographed very large, human-like tracks in the sandy soil. He followed the tracks into the woods and was convinced it was not a human that stole the peaches and left the tracks. The investigator did not mince words. He told the local newspaper reporters what he saw and gave them his opinions. The story was widely covered by TV stations and other newspapers. There have been several cases that I’ve investigated that involve the theft of garden produce by one or more Bigfoot. During the summer months reports of Bigfoot swiping tomatoes, corn in the roasting ear stage, water melons and cantaloupes from gardens in rural areas of the S & SE are fairly common. During the winter they often take turnips and winter onions. In a majority of such cases, the evidence that it was Bigfoot that raided the gardens was their footprints left in the tilled ground. The primary reason for this post is to alert younger Bigfoot “hunters” that their quarry routinely forages on wild fruits and berries, and very often leaves distinctive evidence of the act. Many years ago I first heard one of the animals vocalize about eleven PM on a very cold night in December. For five years I devoted my spare time to try to determine for sure what made that sound. Although I had seen unusual sign and smelled odd and rank odors that I now know were Bigfoot related, it was not until I saw their huge tracks in the thick grass around the perimeter of an “island” of fruit laden blackberry vines that disclosed their identity. In closely examining that blackberry thicket it was obvious the thicket of vines were undisturbed and that for a distance of over three feet inside the perimeter of the thicket nearly all of the ripe berries had been picked. The tracks in the grass closely adjoining the perimeter showed the Bigfoot had taken steps of about four feet, stopped, brought both feet together and reached over the six to seven feet high vines to gather the ripest berries. His tracks showed that the animal approached the exposed blackberry patch from a nearby creek bottom, and returned to the creek bottom when he had eaten the berries within his reach around the edge of the patch. As a point of fact, had it been a black bear that found the berry thicket first, the thicket of vines would have looked as if an ATV had been driven through the entire patch. I have found many good blackberry patches and kept track of the berries’ growth with the intention of harvesting them to make jelly when they were ripe. The black bears beat me to them most of the time. One large patch I was watching was growing in an old clear-cut area near the top of a mountain. The road up the mountain was rough, rutted and in places covered with silt washed off the mountainside. When I knew the berries would be ripe I made rough drive up the mountain. Just before I reached the berry thicket I passed over a layer of red clay. I knew I was wasting my time. I stopped to look at the tracks of a sow bear and her two cubs that were headed toward the patch. I drove to the berry patch as that was the nearest place to turn around. The pristine berry patch looked as if a tornado had flattened it. Many times I have seen medium to large size black cherry trees with the limbs broken off when the fruit was ripe. I always stop to see for sure if it had been a bear, as is usually the case, did the damage. If so, the limbs will have been pulled across the ground to form somewhat of a circle, with the center of the circle showing a large impression of the bear’s butt. A bear will sit on the ground and gorge itself on the fruit. There always seems to be enough berries left for the coyotes. The cherries are a laxative of sorts because the animal trails, roads or open woods near the site are speckled with runny coyote and bear scat. A bear will always leave the marks of its claws on any tree it climbs; but a Bigfoot seldom leaves toe or fingernail marks when they do that. When a Bigfoot climbs a large wild fruit tree they will seat themselves and bend the fruit bearing limbs close enough to strip the fruit from the limbs and branches with their mouth. The evidence on the ground will be a sprinkling of mashed cherries, fruit stems and lacerated leaves. When smaller cherry trees are found with fruit, and they want it, they will break the tree several feet from the ground. Usually the tree top is drug to a more concealed spot if it was growing in an open area. Many animals forage on the several varieties of wild grapes that grow in this part of the country. Muscadine grapes will mature and bear fruit when the small vines grow along the ground without support. The fruit from such vines is easy pickings for all animals, including humans. (The fruit makes excellent jelly and wine.) Large muscadine vines that grow up alongside or wrapped around the sides of large trees may reach a height of a hundred feet or more, with multiple branches from the ground upwards. Coyote, fox, raccoon, opossum, black bear, and feral hogs forage heavily on the fruit. Bigfoot does as well, although because of the relatively small population of these animals and the vast and widespread growth of the vines it is rare to find compelling evidence of those animals foraging on muscadine fruit. It is not unusual to find a muscadine vine when the fruit is ripening and see that the vine has been manipulated to cause a lot of both the ripe and green fruit to fall to the ground. Several times I have noticed this situation and spent time determining the cause, Most of the time I could plainly see teeth marks on the lower parts of the vines. Tracks and scat in the area confirmed that a coyote had actually jumped off the ground to grasp the vines with its teeth, and no doubt shook its body to cause fruit to fall. The mature fruit was obviously eaten, but the green, hard fruit was left on the ground. Their teeth marks showed they had grasped the vine, shook it and simply turned loose of it; in other words the teeth did not slip down the vine. In other such cases it was obvious that bear had pulled and shook the vines with both their teeth and paws. In one case a bear had clawed, chewed and pulled on a huge vine for some time without dislodging much fruit because the vine was tightly wrapped around a huge pine tree. Only once have I seen a wild grape vine from which appeared a Bigfoot had removed the fruit, and the fruit was summer grapes. The vine was growing up a small maple tree (about six or eight inches in diameter) near the top of steep ridge which was capped by a sheer sandstone cliff. Below the face of the cliff was a small natural clearing covered by rocks and boulders with some grass and small brush. The tree had been near the center of the small clearing, and was covered by the vines of a summer grape. When I found it in September a few years ago, it had been broken off about five feet from the ground. The top part, with the vine and its roots attached, had been taken about twenty yards and placed against the base of the cliff. At that location there was a flat, protruding ledge that was about five or six feet above the cliff base. It was obvious the tree and vine had been moved fairly recently as there were still some dried leaves attached to both the tree and vine. There were a few dried grapes still attached to the vine, and some on the ground rocks below the ledge. Below the ledge was also a localized mixture of grape stems, leaves small broken limbs from both the maple tree and the summer grape vine. Along the base and sides of that cliff, which extends nearly one half mile, there are numerous ledges that are similar to the one described. All of those ledges are covered by the duff from northern red oak and pine trees that grow in broken gaps along the top of the cliff. It was noted that most of the accumulated duff on the ledge near which the tree top was placed was nearly gone, and what was left had been disturbed. The ironic thing to me was in this very area, nearly fifty years ago, I walked the length of the top of that cliff for the first time, at times having to walk on tree limbs to get across the gaps. It was only a few hundred yards from this natural clearing that I climbed down to the base of the cliff and on my way to the base of the ridge. When I reached the base of the cliff I immediately smelled the most disgusting and obnoxious odor I had ever encountered in the woods at that time. I thought the smell might have originated from a coyote den, but when I began looking around for one, the odor became fainter and fainter until it was gone. Just memories and observation I wanted to share while I still can. Kindest regards to all.

IMO, there are four basic camps of people associated with this endeavor: You have those individuals that have experienced a personal encounter with these beings and are able to reconcile with themselves that what they experienced was indeed a real event by means of supporting evidence left behind as a result of the incident. In other words, they know and they know that they know. Next, are those that think they may have experienced an encounter but because of a lack of supporting evidence they often have nothing but their own memory visualization to rely upon. This group is often some of the more ardent enthusiasts as they seek validation from a variety of sources to help substantiate their experience as being genuine. People in this class often have sightings (while driving, etc.) that they cannot easily corroborate with other forms of evidence. Then, there are more or less casual observers of this endeavor who while interested are not inclined to pursue the endeavor with any degree of skin in the game. They often associate with BF groups but in more of a cheerleader role or one of more an agnostic position. Finally, come the skeptics whose fear of losing face precipitates a mocking mentality fraught with negativity. Unfortunately, they often gravitate to places where others of the same mindset habitate but end up simply carping among themselves and losing all appearances of relevance. I have yet to meet a skeptic that had also experienced a personal encounter. On one outing, a skeptic was in our company and while not belligerent or caustic, he made it clear he felt we were all full of bovine caca. That is, until that evening he observed two of these beings at <50 yards through a set of Gen III NV binoculars. His transformation was immediate and complete. The gist of the matter once you have that encounter, there is no longer any doubt. If you aren't actively seeking such, to which group do you belong?

I too was a little puzzled by Gigantor's observations about the OP. He may feel the highest and best use of this Forum is to confirm the existence of the animal. Me, I don't hold out any illusions about that...not gonna happen here. Instead, I do find the information traded to be very, very useful to help me come to an understanding of what, exactly, is going on. I (eagerly) read Branco's post with this in mind. So, he taught me something that could be useful. He taught me, "If you run across something in the woods that might look like this...look for this also, and here is a conclusion you might think about." THAT is always going to get my attention, and I'm always looking for that kind of content here, from people with the field time to back it up. More of that, I say.

None at all Ted, except for maybe virtual obsession in the years following trying to work out what it actually was. It should be noted however that I was young (14 ish), had absolutely no idea what it was, no idea it even could remotely exist and because of that I think, no fear whatsoever. In fact maybe the only psychological impact it had on me was keeping my trap completely shut, for a loooooong time. But that's it, nothing else really.

Gig - Wow, I am a little surprised by this post. What exactly are you implying here? As to not wanting to give away the location, I can certainly understand as I never shared the exact location of our local sightings because: 1. I am not comfortable with locals questioning my family about what we have encountered an the mockery that is bound to result. 2. I did not want a bunch of BF hunters tromping all over my land and neighborhood knocking on trees and whooping in the middle of the night, 3. I did not want any BF hunters looking for the glory of shooting the first one in my backyard. Basically the hassle vs reward trade off does not favor full disclosure. I cannot speak for Tal, but my interest and contributions on this site are nothing like the implications you make in your post. Honestly, sounds to me like you are simply pissed and a little bitter that you have struck out in your endeavor to finding BF. I could say more but will let it rest here.

JKH: In most cases the folks who lost the fruit didn't make a effort to track the animals. Had they done so they would have found a path of footprints and dropped fruit that led to the spot in the woods the fruit was eaten, usually by and entire family of the animals. One elderly woman sat on here porch in Clarke County Alabama late one afternoon and watched as, "A big red hairy ape stole an arm full of apples off our tree and walked back into the woods, and didn't hardly pay any attention to me." She told me she saw other smaller animals like the "ape" milling around in the edge of the woods bordering the yard as the big one was stealing the apples. It was a very rural area from which generated several sighting reports. I think two of those reports, from along the same road, were included in the book. Thanks for the kind comment.

Exactly. And they have different ankles and knees.

Everybody's heard of Bigfoot by now. But imagine encountering one before you had ever even heard of them. In a way that was good, because I didn't have any preconceived popular impressions about them. To me; based on their appearance, behavior, and the way they interacted; they were big hairy aboriginal people. Not apes, any more than we are. They can be very frightening, but they also instill a sense of wonder. I'm convinced that they are a primitive people, but think about how smart and careful a race of primitive people has to be in order to avoid popular discovery.

So last night I heard some light knocking in the recording but that is suspect for something smaller, as well as the first real coyote action of the year, usually the two go hand and hand around here, coyotes and activity. I might be looking at a couple more weeks for a stretch of activity like the last one, the fourth of July stuff might be a bit too much human action for them, although the first whoops I heard was in response to fireworks, so maybe I am the one turned off by all the commotion, it certainly muddies up the recording. Cars buzzing by, yahoos out yelling, fireworks, it makes any real recording almost worthless. I will probably hang out with the FLIR tonight, the IOS FLIR adapter is awesome, it really is super easy to use, it shows amazing detail, if you capture a Squatch with this thing from any close range there will be no doubt what you are looking at, problem is the display screen is quite bright, so how do you conceal yourself with that bright display? Who cares it lets me have some advantage for once, peekaboo I see you, who's doing the peekaboo now! Oh well there might be a way to conceal the light from the display while recording, it will produce evidence for certain being in the hands of so many, now it only cost about $250 to go thermal.