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Why would it be a problem to shoot an undocumented, unproven creature? Heck, we can't even get a clear video of the creature as of late. Every previous claim that someone has shot the creature remains unfounded. Why is that? Maybe it's because the creature doesn't exist. Actually, it doesn't exist, scientifically speaking, anyway. Put one on a slab and let the chips fall where they may. If not, all we have are unfounded claims of Bigfoot begging for garlic and other silliness, such as cloaking. I do agree that caution should be used if/when one were to be taken. Who knows what pathogens they have that could cross contaminate humans.

I doubt anyone will have a problem getting caught shooting a Bigfoot. Long as you didn't shoot it from a long distance in the back of the head and get caught. However, if you got caught killing one in self defense, exactly how would you be convicted of anything? It would be thrown out of court so fast it probably would never even make it to court. They will take one look at this thing, and anyone would see that it's him or you. I mean come on, a huge upwards to no telling how tall, 15' as reported, monster that probably still has meat stuck all in it's teeth from it's last kill. Yea no problem here, they'll just put a gag order on you and end of story. As far as killing one with a weapon, easy enough if that's what you want to do. I have no problem with those that wants to supply a body. But I don't personally and never would go out to kill one even though I'm well armed when I do go out. It's never even crossed my mind to purposely go and try to shoot one. However again, I don't care, and if one tried to attack me and I have the chance, yea buddy, I'm unloading everything I have. I don't flaunt the weapons, I just keep them hid. Besides Bigfoot, I just don't want hikers and others seeing someone carrying around large bore weapons.. A well placed shot, easily done. It's just an animal, nothing magical. If you can bring down one of the most tough animals in the world with a gun, Cape Buffalo, I see no problem with Bigfoot going down twice as fast. As far as touching one, I'm pretty serious field researcher, and I would never personally touch a dead one or probably get near enough to even touch it if I wanted to. I'll leave that for the people in the hazmat suits. An animal doesn't have to bite you to give you problems.

Say they travel through the woods in groups of 2-4, dispersed by up to two miles between individuals. You take out one in the middle; the others hear the shot and one last dying scream. How much time do you have before they zero in? Moving through the woods quickly, but still maintaining a little discipline so as to stay out of sight = 1 mile/12 minutes? So if you do put one down with a single shot from 200-300 yards, you have -- 20 minutes? -- to carve up the body. All theoretical of course. "You, sir, may be related to an ape and I may be related to an ape, but General Lee is not, not, related to any ape." Unknown Confederate officer.

There are the equivalent of stone age humans in remote areas. They're human, they have human intelligence - but they haven't done anything with it. If you took a brand new Jeep, gassed up, keys in it - they wouldn't know what to do with it - but even if eventually they figured out how to get it to run, they couldn't sustain it. They don't have the technology to make a compressor to inflate a tire, or plug a flat - charge a depleted battery even if they could figure out what the battery was and what it does. It would be of any use the moment the gas tank ran dry. They have no oil, refining capabilities - nothing. Intelligence, and what one does with it are not to be automatically equated. I recall in 1969, the same year we put a man on the moon, there was a NatGeo article of an expedition into a remote area - where cannibalism was still being practiced - and they were the equivalent of stone age humans. Same year! Two sets of humans. So different. So when folks say these things are not very bright - because they don't have the wheels, or maybe they don't use fire - well, there's some humans likely still on this planet with just about the same degree of advancement. And both groups are doing fine. What we consider necessities - aren't. Even if one has winter quarters in an impression, a cave, or a dugout - to reside closer to the summer herds - it's much easier to construct temporary structures to meet whatever structural needs one may find comforting. And it's easy to differentiate between a construction or nature. It's even relatively easy to differentiate between nature and "pointers," or "indicators," or trail markers, or warning constructs. Something that's clearly been manipulated - isn't nature.

I have listed problems associated with collecting a body before. My ideas about pending problems in order of priority are: 1: The dead BF relatives or tribe 2: As mentioned contamination with BF pathogens, 3 : Transportation and Storage 4: Who you take it to 5: Which government agency shows up that claims it has more right to possess the body than you do. 6: Legal issues. None of these issues are insignificant and if not carefully thought out will result in loss of the specimen and possibly your life. Personally dealing with more than two of these issues pretty well convinces me that I want no part of it. Watch Dinosaur 13 on Netflicks or Amazon. That is the story of the finders of Sue the TRex that is in the Natural History Museum in Chicago. One of the finders did two years in jail because of butting heads with government agencies.

Contrasting the FarArcher and Norseman exchanges: One is based upon actual field experiences and the results thereof. The other is predicated upon speculation and conjecture sans any actual field experience much less forensic evidence to back it up. Now, you be the judge.

There are essentially no caves in my area. It's a function of geology. We have basically 4 geological "families" converging here. 1) Old upper mantle ... one area is somewhat unusual in that it is exposed upper mantle. Peridotite and dunnite. No known caves. 2) Southern Oregon Cascades volcanos - appears to have an underlying shield with very old lava, but no lava tubes. The high peaks are primarily andesite, pushed up from below as broken boulders, not flowing lava. No known caves. 3) Coastal terrane - rubble pile formed as the pacific plate subducts under the North American plate. The light stuff lying on top of the plate scrapes off. This is mostly sea floor mud plus sometimes an island or reef that formed offshore. It's almost all sedimentary rock which does not form caves. There are two places known for caves. There's a small area with limestone at Oregon Caves where Matt Johnson had his sighting. The caves are not responsible other than for drawing vast numbers of tourists of which "Dr J" was one. There's a lot more bigfoot activity on the back side of the mountain where there is no limestone. That mountain is essentially contiguous with the Bluff Creek / Willow Creek area via Red Buttes Wilderness .... THAT is why there are bigfoots, NOT because of the caves. The other location is near Snow Camp Mountain. That is a little less known. However, it is a vertical shaft. Spelunkers going in have to be lowered on a winch line. Not bigfoot-friendly. We have a few mine shafts but most are either blocked by steel grates for public safety, have been dozed over, .. or are still in use. Most of the gold mining here was placer mining, not hard rock mining, and there are no shafts from that. MIB

You made this statement; "Well, the scientific discovery of Sasquatch has already happened." No where in that statement does one find the word "personal". If the evidence has settled the question for you? Fine! But your statement above is still a bald faced lie.