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The day that it becomes known that one has been taken - it's going to be one big, international doo-doo-storm. There's going to be a lot of excitement, lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth, and everyone and their brother will be wanting not only access - but control. The more well funded scientific groups - will have the Feds behind them. Feds will come from the approach that only the possession of the body will ensure an adequate, professional, scientific analysis and examination (which will take many years), and anything less will deny full scientific understanding of this remarkable "discovery." The Federal government - Department of Interior especially - assume every animal in the nation technically falls under Federal jurisdiction. Then, if the Department of Defense decides - they may make the declaration that this falls under National Security, and try to bend this find to fall under 35 U.S.C. 181-188. That law pertains primarily to technological developments or inventions of new technologies - but they can pretty much bend the interpretation any way they wish. Then, one is not even allowed to discuss or mention it again. This Federal gag order that accompanies this - will get you a long Federal prison sentence if you again open your mouth about it. Now, why would the Feds be interested? Five will get you ten, they really want to have a close look at those eyes. And the genetic code - for their own experiments - or to prevent the genetic code from being made public - which could enable unfriendlies to conduct their own "research experiments." States will themselves have a thousand questions - and again, to see if there's a way the state can find a way to get control. In the interest of the public scientific knowledge advancement. The arguments will be that possibly state game laws were broken, some will toss out that this may possibly be a part human - and thus murder charges are possible (but can't be determined until a careful examination takes place), But they'll make a deal - immunity in exchange for the corpse. So very generous. So, it may be a good idea to glove up, as JDL stated - even the ticks could be a problem. But you better have a plan - a good one - once you get a body. Because there's a lot of players going to be wanting to get their hands on it. And some can be absolutely ruthless.1 point
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What would be the motive for any Govt. agency confiscating the corpse? To cover it up and to further the plausibility of them being non-existant ? Thinking along these lines would to me at least, make me want to avoid being hush hush about the find, and get it out to a reliable news outlet that will immediately break the story on a national level. Once your local yokel NBC affiliate reporter and camera crew shoot a bunch of footage of what can only be a real body (and not a monkey suit + pig guts stuffed in a freezer), it'd be nearly impossible for them to sweep it under the rug. If the Feds found out it was being stored at a local college, and you hadn't told anyone publicly? They could swoop right in and make that thing disappear in a flash. I think the safe bet would also be, as has been mentioned already, to section the body and to keep at least a few recognizable pieces separate from whatever is handed over to anyone for examination. All these years later, I'm still trying to figure out the necessary thought process involved for those two guys to actually believe they were going to pull that charade off. Man, I cant even imagine how nervous and excited I'd be, If id been dumb lucky enough to put a soft point through old big and stinky's gourd, and had the body stashed somewhere safe ! Its been a good Winter for keeping an eye on things here in upstate NY. A consistent snow pack for most of the Winter, which allows me as im driving around on some of these back roads that border (or go through) large tracts (1000's of acres) of state forest land, to keep my eyes pealed for tracks, or large dark shapes against a pure white background. But its been cold also, and I believe that's going to severely limit any activity.1 point
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Hiflier, I don't know if you were brainstorming or exploring ideas, or did you really conclude that subterranean is the only solution for the lack of finding the BF's? If you did, then you are joining Thom Powell who in his book Edges of Science arrived at that conclusion. Big difference, though, is that Thom went beyond and way out there and tied BFs with aliens. I think the cave idea is just another excuse people use for not finding BF (just like the portal, but less woo woo) with very little supporting evidence. If BF lives in caves, then in south Florida they must be divers, since most of the caves in the southern part of the state are underwater. Yet, Florida has more BFRO reports than Oregon. There is nothing wrong with exploring that idea, but I think it would be more fruitful to follow others options, like those that FarArcher suggests. While I have no knowledge of the reality of where they live and spend their winters, I think FarArcher has got it right in that these are smart intelligent creatures that will know how to survive and avoid us and I think they are doing very well. I have met several people who have encounters with these entities in CA in same locations over the years. And, these reports are not in BFRO database (including recent ones from Del Norte). These BF's don't appear to be migrating; they seem be clans that stay put within their home range (however large that is).. I don't think these creatures are going extinct when in 2 out of 5 BFRO trips, people ran into them! (small sample size, I know, but it is a data point). The odds for a visual encounter are higher above ground on likely BF habitat than going caving. When in Oregon, I rather go to the Clackamas River drainage area (to places that Joe Beelart mentioned in his book) than going spelunking in lava tubes or caves.1 point
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If they have an area they populate - a remote area, with shelter, or a series of nearby shelters, a nearby source of water, and are able to feed - and conduct the bulk of their activities at night, why, in the Wide, Wide World of Sports would they engage in a constant migration? That makes no sense. The hunters of the family, or hunters combining of nearby families overnight can range far and wide - and from what I saw - they can cover many miles on any given night. Easily. You cover four feet or so every step - you can cover some ground. You have good night vision - you can really hunt. If their eyes are twice as large as ours - that automatically enables them to gather twice the ambient light. But here's a kicker - rod cells - the ones that provide night vision to many nocturnal species through special DNA architecture - turn the rod cell nuclei into little light-collecting lenses, with millions of them in the eye. Due to architecture, there are light scattering (in all directions) nuclei, which acts to share with other nuclei, and then there are the nuclei that focus light in one direction, meaning light can travel farther back into the eye to be perceived. Now if you have this - unlike us - your night vision is most excellent - enabling those delegated to hunt and gather - to hunt and gather. So no, they don't have to take the kids with them everywhere they go. Momma keeps the kids, grandpa can take it easy and maybe just conduct sentry duty, while the adult males do the hunting and gathering. The recon analogy - and I know it went right over your head - applied to what I keep saying - it's EASY TO HIDE FROM HUMANS. Easy. Oh. And you missed the principle of the Hobbitt. The dwarfism wasn't due to them occupying an island - it was due to limited land, food, freedom of movement, and other elements necessary for sustenance. The same thing applies to a continent - with varying land terrains. If, as you suggested, they are barely able to feed themselves (like the Hobbitts), they wouldn't be so large. You want to apply one principle to one group, but not apply the identical, same principle to another group. You want selective use of universal principles - and it doesn't work that way. If a large species lacks sufficient food to thrive and thrive well - it will (per Darwin) get smaller so that the critter becomes more efficient and can better use limited food supplies. But we're not seeing that with BF. You like to take a position, and consider the aspects that may support your pre-determined position. I saw a primitive form of man - and they aren't like the intentionally humanized forms you see in the Smithsonian. You seek an ape. Big difference. And I'd agree - if it were a dumb ape, we'd have a number of them on hand by now. If it were a big dumb ape, we wouldn't hear about their "language." If it were a big dumb ape, they wouldn't be so cleverly elusive. If it were a big dumb ape, they'd be more limited to a certain local ecology. But a primitive man wouldn't have those restrictions.1 point
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I also agree with Triton that there just aren't enough cameras out there to cover bigfoot territory. Even the very best cams don't cover much area.1 point
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The network is there to make money. The production crew is there to make money. If it does not sell to the general masses it does not matter how much the die hard footers like it, we still don't get to see it. I think they do pretty well given the economic realities of TV. It seems the cast laid down the law when it came to misrepresenting stuff just for ratings. I have to give them credit for that. There's also not enough real substantial material like we'd all like to see to fill an hour slot every week. To do a real show for 'footers, I think it would have to be a series of intermittent "specials". We can hope for something like that in the future I suppose. MIB1 point
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