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Does anyone seriously believe that the Government would not try to confiscate a body? If you accept that they exist, then you must accept the probability that the Government is aware of them. And yet, the Government, with the exception of an Army Corps of Engineers publication in the early '70s, has never even acknowledged the possibility of their existence. Why is this? Even the most environmentally friendly administrations have not taken the opportunity to publicly claim the existence of bigfoot as justification for environmental agendas. The general conclusion that I come to from this is that disclosure of the existence of bigfoot has more downside from the Government's perspective than upside.3 points
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IMO, the only thing(s) this bunch is capable of killing is time, themselves or an innocent person.2 points
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Owls can freak you out in the woods. They just don't hoot. As for the knocks, from my experience I think it's a combination hand clapping and smacking a tree with something. Not at the same time, but one or the other. I've heard them do both on recorded audio. The sound signatures are very apparent. I know some people will say they might use rocks to smack against each other for knocks. Our tests have shown this simply isn't possible for several reasons as a way to communicate with others. Since no sticks/clubs is ever found I have no clue what they use, but they use something heavy. I also think they only tree knock for only one or two reasons, mainly herding animals during a group hunt and maybe telling the rest of the group there's intruders in the area. This only applies to a group situation, as a single Bigfoot has absolutely no reason to tree knock. I've put the notion out of my head that tree knocks are used for mating calls and courtship because it helps ease my mind when in the woods, as I have very long hair and even with a beard I do not want one to think I'm a bushy little female. There is nothing that sounds like a real tree knock, not woodpeckers, not acorns or pinecones falling, to confuse these sounds means someone is not properly paying attention to the audio or not yet able to properly identify audio sounds.2 points
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I wish them the best. I would much rather watch people trying to end the mystery than perpetuating it.......1 point
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Seatco...welcome to the Forum! You'll find numerous posts in this thread from WesT on this idea, beginning, it appears, on page 2. You'll probably want to read a lot of the posts since then, and it will be an excellent primer on the evidence. After that, I'm sure any would be glad to answer your questions.1 point
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Perhaps, but realistically, that is largely conjecture, which is pretty much all most of us have at this point, and to assign the developmental level of their brain physiology, cognitive ability, and the nature of their social constructs is a bit of a stretch, especially if you're using the human fossil record as the standard or scale, in that it is so far from complete that even trying to determine such phases as coinciding, much less causitive, in our own bio-social development is sketchy at best. In that we have no certainty in regards to our knowledge of their means of communication, actual numbers, degree of cognition (for both an average, as well as exceptional cases or potentials) regular behaviour patterns, activities, range of environmental roles and functions, mobility patterns, life cycles, possible conscious intents, drives , goals(? Who can say?) and motivations, the extent of their elusiveness and subterfuge, the history of their evolution, their capacity for long distance communications, the nature of their endoparasites, what they see as a reasonable distance to travel for a date, or even why the dogmen say they're sasquatch when they're talking in yer, just to mess with the hairless dwarves or is it part of a grander agenda with effects more far reaching than the self impressed social think apes will perceive or even imagine before it's far too late "those pinks think they're so social! Once we get our numbers up, develop rudimentary technologies and then leave it all laying about the forest, they'll all be too distracted to see the Centaurian plasma transformational device as they send selfies with the "non-natural stick tools" to their ex's and debating whether a blender comprised solely of twigs and alder leaves is actually the result of last week's storm or the remnants of a practice beaver **** that just looks an old Oster, as their individual DNA samples are collected, catalogued, analysed, alphabetized, and added to the "products available" supplemental page for monkeygenesforcheap.com/earth/wildcaught" We just can't make these assumptions from a non-existent fossil record, as many 5 second sightings you want to list, print casts or audio recordings(unless they think the Mic isn't on still and they start say things like"are we ever gonna tell em how many of us there really are? No.. we're still sticking with the no more than 10000, honest, nothing to see hear, just a stump...hold still til they look away!") Sure we can consider, contemplate, discuss and debate any number of possible realities but to designate what it is, define its nature, determine its social complexity, and delineate its cognitive depth, from what we have currently at hand is to limit our potential to realize and recognize what they actually are and can do, if or once we obtain actual knowledge or founded understanding of these creatures. Just my Tuesday morning rant....1 point
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The day that it becomes known that one has been taken - it's going to be one big, international doo-doo-storm. There's going to be a lot of excitement, lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth, and everyone and their brother will be wanting not only access - but control. The more well funded scientific groups - will have the Feds behind them. Feds will come from the approach that only the possession of the body will ensure an adequate, professional, scientific analysis and examination (which will take many years), and anything less will deny full scientific understanding of this remarkable "discovery." The Federal government - Department of Interior especially - assume every animal in the nation technically falls under Federal jurisdiction. Then, if the Department of Defense decides - they may make the declaration that this falls under National Security, and try to bend this find to fall under 35 U.S.C. 181-188. That law pertains primarily to technological developments or inventions of new technologies - but they can pretty much bend the interpretation any way they wish. Then, one is not even allowed to discuss or mention it again. This Federal gag order that accompanies this - will get you a long Federal prison sentence if you again open your mouth about it. Now, why would the Feds be interested? Five will get you ten, they really want to have a close look at those eyes. And the genetic code - for their own experiments - or to prevent the genetic code from being made public - which could enable unfriendlies to conduct their own "research experiments." States will themselves have a thousand questions - and again, to see if there's a way the state can find a way to get control. In the interest of the public scientific knowledge advancement. The arguments will be that possibly state game laws were broken, some will toss out that this may possibly be a part human - and thus murder charges are possible (but can't be determined until a careful examination takes place), But they'll make a deal - immunity in exchange for the corpse. So very generous. So, it may be a good idea to glove up, as JDL stated - even the ticks could be a problem. But you better have a plan - a good one - once you get a body. Because there's a lot of players going to be wanting to get their hands on it. And some can be absolutely ruthless.1 point
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What would be the motive for any Govt. agency confiscating the corpse? To cover it up and to further the plausibility of them being non-existant ? Thinking along these lines would to me at least, make me want to avoid being hush hush about the find, and get it out to a reliable news outlet that will immediately break the story on a national level. Once your local yokel NBC affiliate reporter and camera crew shoot a bunch of footage of what can only be a real body (and not a monkey suit + pig guts stuffed in a freezer), it'd be nearly impossible for them to sweep it under the rug. If the Feds found out it was being stored at a local college, and you hadn't told anyone publicly? They could swoop right in and make that thing disappear in a flash. I think the safe bet would also be, as has been mentioned already, to section the body and to keep at least a few recognizable pieces separate from whatever is handed over to anyone for examination. All these years later, I'm still trying to figure out the necessary thought process involved for those two guys to actually believe they were going to pull that charade off. Man, I cant even imagine how nervous and excited I'd be, If id been dumb lucky enough to put a soft point through old big and stinky's gourd, and had the body stashed somewhere safe ! Its been a good Winter for keeping an eye on things here in upstate NY. A consistent snow pack for most of the Winter, which allows me as im driving around on some of these back roads that border (or go through) large tracts (1000's of acres) of state forest land, to keep my eyes pealed for tracks, or large dark shapes against a pure white background. But its been cold also, and I believe that's going to severely limit any activity.1 point
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I enjoy "Finding Bigfoot" and respect the cast, but this sounds more like manufactured "reality" rubbish. I for one will not be tuning in for this tripe. Armed good ol' boys running around shooting up the forest at night in order to protect folks - no thanks.1 point
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For me it's a scouting tool! A hit on the camera, thermal or otherwise will not be conclusive as proof of the creature.1 point
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