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Honestly, I don't know how we can use this to determine population dynamics. We can see the difference ease of communication did for sighting numbers. Are we going to say bigfoot numbers were lower, increased in the late nineties then dropped off again? This shows something but it isn't population dynamics.

I agree with MIB on the habituators maybe being the key to more understanding. But I have to admit that he and I have been exposed to some of the same people who claim to be in this group. So perhaps that drives our conclusions. Let me relate what I have been told by some of them. Mind you, I know of some of them second or third hand, so information they give out is hardly vetted. I and you for that matter have to take it with a grain of salt. The majority have BF who are living in groups nearby nearly year round if not year round. Those groups are in more temperate locations so that is certainly possible in the Pacific Northwest. Even these locations seem to have BF male drifters move through who seem to cause different degrees of trouble. Perhaps that is related to food availability, territorial associations, or availability of females, I do not know. Some less temperate situations the BF seem to migrate away from the habituators in the winter months. That would make sense. I know one report of some exchange of breeding age females with distant groups. Genetically that makes sense in that it would reduce inbreeding problems but the single report I have of that happening is not indicative of anything other than regional or an individual case. Objectively looking at it, this habituation situation may be rare and the exception. It takes a good location with food and cover and a human family willing to tolerate and accept sharing their land with BF. Neither or both of these situations may be very common. BF scares the daylights out of most people. The sad part of this is that people who claim to be in habituation situations are often driven out of forums such as this by both skeptics and skeptical believers alike and we loose contact with them. While my personal contact with them has always been supportive, they have always reacted to my offer to deploy camera or other gear with distrust. or outright rejection. The reasons given are that they do not want to put their BF group in potential harm by revealing locations, they have had bad experience with various researchers, or simply that they do not want BF to be proven to exist. Certainly these are valid considerations, but in all honesty, even though I am a witness, it introduces some level of uncertainty in my mind that some of them are authentic. If I made daily claims of BF in my back yard, had the opportunity to validate it photographically, yet would not agree to carefully agreed upon protocols, I should not be surprised that people did not believe me. At some point they were willing to come into a public forum, tell their story, yet back out just short of the point where that story could be validated. Maybe they need their own forum or something to tell their story and stay around. But from my experience it would be little more than a support group for troubled humans and not much useful would come of it for the rest of us. When I have suggested even simple experiments without any gear of any kind deployed it is normally rejected by the humans involved. As a curious person, that really raises red flags for me.

This poll inspired me to add a new chart to the SSR, a simple timeline of the number of sightings per month.... I'm still playing with it to make it more presentable.... below is the plot for Washington State from 1980 to 2016. and below is every State from 1980 to 2016 (5490 sightings)

If you want the answers to this, they are available via some of the habituators. They're in a position to watch specific individuals over time. People reporting single road crossings are not. Investigators of such crossings are, a the very very best, GUESSING that two different people saw the same individual. You have to decide whether you're willing to listen to the answers you've already been given, which can be found in the literature, or whether you're going to dismiss them and look for other answers that fit your preconceived ideas better. It's up to you. MIB

I'm curious to see what members think about the status of BF as a species. Please do explain why you voted the way you did.

Patty? Patty was as bowlegged as a newborn or toddler. To start with. Her valgus knee angle was 15 degrees, ours is nine degrees. The rendition doesn't show her to be bowlegged. I don't know why - but that jumps right out at me. Next up, did you see her hands? Look human, huh? Lucy's hand are even more curved than in a chimpanzee, and morphologically look like a chimpanzee hands. Lucy's assembled ribcage looks like a chimpanzee rib cage - but the artwork really doesn't depict that. Lucy has long, curved toes and a mobile ankle joint - making her well suited for grasping limbs and climbing trees - not exactly depicted in the rendering. But truly - Lucy has a divergent toe - do you see a divergent toe in the rendering? I don't. Lucy was is just another extinct ape - no antecedent of humans. But boy, our BS artists we call anthropologists - sure would like us to believe that - and so they prefer all of those primitive apes as appearing more human. Their paycheck depends on it.

The highest sighting number of the whole life of the graph for 50 states is roughly 50 in one month......50! The average is more like half that. And we know hoaxing is involved in this subject because Yahoos get hit by cars while dressed in suits. I do not know how to quantify that in these reports. But let's just say less than 25 reports a month for 50 states is legit....it's a pittenance. Who here still thinks we are dealing with a large viable breeding population of Bigfeets coast to coast? 20 reports per month x 12 months per year is 240. Divided by 50 states is 4.8 sightings per year per state. This is with roughly 320 million pairs of eyeballs doing the looking.........on foot, horseback, atvs, boats, planes, hot air balloons, trains, google earth, security cameras, game cams, USBP predator drones, military, CIA, NPS, state, county and city LE and wildlife agencies...... This is why I'm the small population, low density, extreme wilderness, avoids humans at all costs, nocturnal Bigfoot advocate. Its simply not logical in any other format.

They completely showed their colors when they launched into the "we're bad-ass and everyone wants to be like us" in last week's episode. They're now on a level of Mountain Monsters crew. Now THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is entertainment.

Where I have lived, NC and NJ, a BF group could eat a deer a day with no significant loss in the deer population. In fact, there have been studies that conclude that the faster deer are killed, the faster they reproduce. Heck, if they picked up 10% of the deer roadkill they could probably live a hunger free life and do the public a service. You can get some sense of this by studying white BF reports. They seem to be rare enough that repeated sightings of one in an area is probably the same creature. I know of one on Alabama that seems to inhabit a localized territory and I recall another out west but cannot recall the exact location.

OK....they bury their dead.....for tens of thousands of years. Humans come along and excavate the pacnw for I5, the Ballard locks, the kingdome, downtown Seattle and Portland and Vancouver BC....millions of homes, apartments, golf courses, airports, gas and sewer lines. Do they dig deeper than a Cat 330 excavator? Or did they ever reside there? There is a fundamental flaw in the explanation that they are everywhere and doing great....it's not logical.

So did native Americans! Europeans wore brightly colored uniforms and stood shoulder to shoulder in combat until we met native Americans using camo and hiding behind rocks and trees....... Bushcraft does not explain why we have not discovered this species. Because we dig up NA bones and villages all the time. Despite these people running circles around us in the woods. Bushcraft does not come into play when your corpse is rotting into the forest floor. So what other factors are there? I say population size and density must play a crucial role in keeping them hidden. I also say they are NOT everywhere...