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Gigantor, I listened to the Cornell file. Very wimpy. I will try to record Sooty Grouse. The Sooty Grouse went away. Possibly shot since they are good tasting game birds. Might be awhile before I find more....... like summer. I have recordings of wicked Barred Owls from my area that are different than Cornell samples. Comparing audio from different habitats is interesting and takes a lot of time.

Jeeps? "Real jeeps are built, not bought." This, the first build, used a 2" suspension lift, 1" body lift, and 1" taller motor mounts instead of a transfer case drop so it didn't cut into my clearance. This jeep came with a factory option Dana 44 which I had a local shop put 4.10s in, a Detroit locker in back, and a TruTrac gear driven limited slip up front. Y' see it here with the original style 33x12.50 BFG MTs. I did a few minor things to it ... swapped bumpers 'cause I bent the cheesy factory sheet metal. (The tree won.) I rammed a stob through a sidewall and wound up replacing the BFGs with Interco's radial TSL .. still 33x.12.50s ... siped. That was a snow eating beast ... nearly unstoppable. Later on I added a little more lift and went with 35x12.50 Interco SSRs. I swapped the gearing again for 4.56s. Finally I swapped the 4.10s for 4.56s, upgraded to a 4" suspension lift, went with adjustable control arms (Rubicon Express), SYE conversion with a Tom Woods drive shaft, a 6-gear planetary 4:1 set from Teraflex instead of factory, plus a 2WD low range conversion. It came out like this: I wheeled the crap out of it on weekends just saving enough time to fix anything I broke, then drove it to work all week. "Wash, rinse, repeat." I sold it at 85K miles. It was just. plain. done. I miss it though. MIB

I'll tell you what drives "science." Called "FUNDING." I can take any side of a scientific position, fund one, and I guarantee, the science will skew to that side. If I turn right around and fund the opposing side, maybe with a bit MORE funding - the science will indicate the opposing position. No funding, no science. Modern science is much akin to mercenaries. You show them the money, they'll fight for your side. Another word for the same principle is prostitution. You pay, indicate what you're looking for, and they'll play.